TWW content and events weren’t terrible. The plot and characters are terrible and awful.
I don’t know, Ewoks are accomplished hair stylists and flesh cookers.
I’m tilted to the prequels thanks to Natalie though, especially 2.
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Like any story… the beginning must start with establishing the characters, motivations, and world through which the story is to be told. The start of TWW established all the new characters we will be interacting with throughout the trilogy, the motives and desires of all involved, built upon the world in which the story is to be told, and even helped establish the weight of the threat we are to face.
To use your Star Wars example… tPM had a lot of world building that did nothing to further or even establish the plot for the prequal trilogy. And yet, the movies would have been worse without it, we’d have no clue who anyone really is or why we should even care about them, the battles in the Clone Wars would be completely nonsensical and feel arbitrary to the plot, and there would be a complete disconnect with the audience.
The reason you personally feel the way you do about this is likely due to you disliking some aspects of the story. Most likely the inclusion of characters you dislike, the exclusion of certain characters you do like, a distaste for the choice of central focal character, or even dissatisfaction with how past stories from previous expansions unfolded. You may also simply be irked by the pacing, being this far into the games life, you expect it to latch onto an old established plot point and dive headfirst into it, and yet despite tackling an old established plot point, TWW is building up a foundation for the story instead of diving straight in.
Remember we’re going back to Northrend in the Last Titan and Iridikron is said to be based underground there. The Nerubians still have a part to play.
Gameplay wise, it was ok.
Hero talents need a lot of work still, but a few of these were nice.
Delves are cool.
Plot wise, almost fully a waste of time with a lot of nonsense.
Pretty much the whole expansion could have been skipped and mot much would change, except for the “titans are actually evil” and “yet another hidden piece of land (arathi)” retcons.
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The dalaran intro could have been better with presenting the nerubians as a threat (think we should have been kidnapped with the civilans and fought our way back up in the intro then met the dwarves after using their collapsing coreway)
And the undermine patch needed some more black blood involvement for consistency; gallywix pulling a SoO garrosh would have made it feel more urgent and tied into the void infection setup by the neurubian ascension stuff, but overall it was okay.
An introduction to xalatath for anyone who wasnt a shadowpriest in legion or didnt do the bfa story (they were awhile ago).
Harronir we know are getting more focus midnight.
The Arathi and beledar stuff are a good setup for an enemy light faction or another army to recruit against the void anytime after 12.0.
The Earthern/titan/Azeroth stuff are likely going to come back up when we got to northrend in last titan for ulduar.
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Exactly! Also it diminished the impact of Faerin Lothar…if she had been a small star of light among the fanatics then she would stand out more.
However no, apparently the Arathi care if there adorable giant cats get ‘the zoomies’ (and that would have been a cute little thing on it’s own IF the Arathi there just saw them as war-beasts and Faerin saw them as just cuddly cats.).
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Frankly I did not see it as filler so much as establishing a home city for the earthen.
if you want me to admit I think the campaign was written around that , okay.
IDK - to me you didn’t pay attention, at all.
Huh? We never did that… they had a fully functional city when we showed up
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Do you prefer " writing a home city for the Earthen?"
Everybody doesn’t have this luxury , The Darkspears are still on a tiny island off Duratar and we still have to put the Elf tree back and ventilate undercity.
Blizz really dropped the ball with any follow up to the Season 1 Nerubian story. So we killed Ansurek. What now? They still swarmed and invaded Hallowfall again and then we heard nothing else.
Undermine was definitely mostly filler. We went there to get the Dark Heart and stayed around fighting in a revolution only because Gallywix had some of the bad stuff Orweyna didn’t want around. Maybe that will be touched upon in the Haramdar story?
I wonder what Xal’s plan was for the Dark Heart if the Ethereals hadn’t stolen it. Just eat up the Shadowguard and Dimensius without our help?
Besides Jar-Jar, the prequels were pretty decent. Leagues better than the sequels. All the OG actors should feel ad for being part of those ones…
Keep in mind, I saw the prequels in theatres as a kid. So I grew up with those, I know I am biased towards them. But I really do like Episodes 2 and 3.
Well, that’d be why the rest of the sentence included the BFA quest arc with her, open to all players, where she ALSO betrays multiple people and then us, and makes it super clear that is her entire personality.
NVM of course that many players did in fact make Shadow Priests in Legion specifically for Xal’atath and her story with it being one of the unique weapons with voice lines for the character, and that even prior to 11.2, Lorewalking as a pushed and advertised feature gave people a lore dump (including Priest and BFA quest lines) to all players about Xal’atath.
I’m sure we needed 11.2 to establish that same arc, yet again. Rather than perhaps moving beyond to new character progression and story beats. That’s definitely how good story writing works /s.
We did not make a home for the Earthen in any way shape or form. The city was there… how do you not understand this?
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I wouldn’t say that it IS filler, but I will say it FEELS like filler.
I’ve honestly not wanted to play this Xpac much.
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I’m not sure why you’re arguing semantics. That person isn’t saying that we the player character personally build and established a home for the Earthen. They’re saying that the story established a home for the Earthen, by introducing the concept that the Earthen exist, and then setting up the circumstances where they have a home and we are involved in it, for whatever purposes that fits into the story at large.
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just waiting for midnight, if i have the same shadowlands start area feeling im leaving, TWW started great, but you can see it was left behind for something else, midnight features dont look that good to be honest and im not waiting for housing
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Filler lol. The Aspects, so far, haven’t been relevant to the events of TWW and there has been no mention of any involvement from them in Midnight. Amirdrassil has not been mentioned at all. Iridikron has not been mentioned either and he is not stated to be in Midnight.
The Dark Heart is the only thing being carried over from DF and even it still has several unanswered questions. Khadgar only “speculated” it could be a prototype for the Dragon Soul, but if it is strong enough to contain a Void Lord than it should actually be stronger than the Dragonsoul. So how exactly was the Dark Heart created how did Iridikron learn about it? You could say Xal told him about it, but how did Xal learn about it when she was supposedly trapped in a dagger since the days of the Black Empire?
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“It’s better than poop therefore it’s good and we should be happy”
End thread. This is every response basically. I wonder if people ever get tired of being apologists and making excuses for bad stuff 24/7.
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Multibillion dollar company owned by a trillion dollar company btw. They can’t and won’t ever do more.
I didn’t say any of those things.
Not liking the expansion is legitimate. Thinking the story is bad or boring or the wrong direction is legitimate. Not enjoying the gameplay and listing complaints is legitimate (I’ve done a lot of complaining on these forums about the parts I don’t like).
But the OP said he felt like TWW was mostly filler. I disagree and explained why I believe TWW provided more than filler content.
That is not an apologetic, and I made zero excuses for “bad stuff.”
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