Do you want deterministic gearing systems in all WoW seasons?

[Méòw-moon-guard]

Essentially raid lockouts in their current iteration and form are what deter quite a few from wanting to raid. It flat out just does not feel good. We want the ability to re-clear content to play around bad RNG and so we can play at our own pace. The demand for deterministic loot exists because of the poor implementation of timegate. This is one of the reasons why mythic+ has so much more engagement.

@Akariliselle-cenarion-circle

As far as raid lockouts, those have always been a thing. Do you want raid lockouts removed so you can farm the same boss 20 times in one day until you get all the very rare items on day 1?

No, as suggested elsewhere, they improve it while still keeping a form of timegate.

The stupid mythic raid lockout system needs to go

To meet Blizzard halfway… If timegate is kept, it should be about the quality of gear, not the quantity. You need to give people agency over their progression, not table flip put them in timeout or burn them if someone else was a quitter. For instance, the max ilvl of any drop could be capped globally on a schedule, regardless of the m+ key or raid hardness level. You would have to still login every week to farm more powerful gear, but given the agency to at least chase your BiS by same-week r…

IIRC they tried a poor implementation of this in season 1, where they blocked off m+ and raids entirely instead of capping the ilvl of loot on a timegate from said content directly.

@Fauxstrasza-stormrage

Except your definition of timegates is the loot system the game has from day 1.

I also think the social aspect hard carried wow despite the subpar timegate systems design, not because of it.

Why do players roll on items they don't need?

Social aspect hard carried WoW despite raid lockouts early on. It’s been chipping away at the community year after year, so now people just minmax cheese their weekly timegates and are toxic if someone sub-optimally plays. The game is in a social-aspect death spiral because the pre-existing community has been degraded over time by these bad systems.

Why do players roll on items they don't need?

Answer: Because the game has conditioned everyone to be selfish as they don’t get to replay the same raid for wanting to take it slow to help others. They get put in loot timeout via raid lockouts and burned for wanting to help the community. Social aspect died due to timegate systems design. The people who nolifed but still wanted to take the game slow and help others completely died out by Blizzard’s own hand.