Do you believe the "want" for classic/vanilla wow was due to the difficulty increase on retail?

Wouldn’t a 30 year old wash up just be teh average baby millenial?

Boomers would be 60 year old washups.

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There are no such thing as 30 year old boomers.

Baby Boomers: born between 1946 and 1964. They’re currently between 56-74 years old (71.6 million in U.S.)

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the fun of classic is looking forward to when the fun starts

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Yeah, I wondered if there was a new definition for it. 30 year olds are by definition millennials right now.

30 year old boomer is a meme, not everything has to be official lol. It’s because of the similarity in the way they live their lives in comparison to the stereotype of a boomer.

edit: Try applying the concept in reverse, 60 year old zoomer. I think it’s fun and real, because not everyone acts their age or associates with company of their age.

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No. Just more ignorance.

Correct.

Millennials/Gen Y: born between 1981 and 1996. They are currently between 24-39 years old (72.1 million in the U.S.)

It would be ironic if that person is a Millennial.

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So, its appropriate to call out a 20 something as “Okay Zoomer”?

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If they are behaving like a stereotypical zoomer, sure why not? I don’t think all forms of discrimination are hateful or harmful. I wouldn’t take issue with being likened to any generation. It’s all in good fun to me. People don’t know my age, they only see my in-game behavior.

edit: The way I play, for sure people would call me a zoomer. I don’t mind that. It is how I play.

People flocked to classic because it wasn’t a fast food MMO. Things took a bit of time, but that was in large part because the game was new and the world was learning. It had nothing to do with difficulty.

That culture and those days are gone, and they don’t even exist in the current state of classic.

Is that moniker somehow offensive? I don’t see the problem.

Using OK Boomer is a pejorative, but given the existence of a meme that makes zoomer and boomer interchangeable, the question is: Is it also a pejorative to use ok zoomer as one would ok boomer.

No, because you are wrong.

Raids in Classic have been easy due to it being released with the last patch with more powerful gear and better talent trees.

Now Naxxramas is out, and it’s proven to be a significant challenge. The difficulty difference isn’t there any more.

Plus, practically everyone prior to the release of classic talked about how hard they expected the raids to be, and how dissapointed they were to discover it wasn’t the case.

For the longest time, people said it was because people were just bad back then, but now Naxx is out and put ended those ideas. The truth is out: difficulty was due to the patch released, now the raid is the same as the patch, only 20% of guilds have cleared it.

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Isn’t this kind of the opposite of how it actually is? I have no interest in classic but was under the impression people had to run around getting world buffs and warlocks had to farm soul shards etc.

Big fella, I raided Molten Core in vanilla, when it was fresh. It wasn’t hard.

The hard part was getting 40 people to their keyboards to pay attention for 6 hours.
The hard part was that your pallies were wearing cloth to heal (on alliance side).
The hard part was spending months farming resistance gear so you had a chance at killing certain trash and bosses.

The tuning and mechanics were not hard. It was a complete joke compared to today’s content, mechanic wise.

The results you mention about Nax are still inflated because people aren’t as bad anymore. Something like 0.1% of players saw the original Nax. 20% of guilds clearing it is magnitudes more than did in classic.

It is definitely easier now because people don’t suck as bad as they did back then.

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Having knowledge of the fights, how to gear, and the world buff meta, doesn’t really make people substantially better players. It just buffs them up.

The main reason the numbers for Naxx went up isn’t difficulty, it’s the fact that everyone in classic now raids. Back then, raiding was just something that some people did. In Vanilla, people were far more social, Role-playing, and just hanging out because back then it was more akin to second life.

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You also need twigs for fingers.

I would disagree with this. Knowing what to do in fights is pretty much rule #1 of raiding.

In current use, a Boomer just seems to be anyone that’s over 30 and is sort of living in the past, or is tech unsavy. I don’t think most people that use the term today are thinking of actual Baby Boomers

That was pretty explicitly one of the main points that classic fans have always waxed nostalgic over, yes.

I‘ve been wondering how much of the old struggles were exacerbated by hardware, actually. These days any modern rig will run WOW smooth as butter, but back in 2005 my mid-range desktop could only pull about 2 or 3 FPS on Vaelestrasz. When Nefarian resurrected all his dragon spawn in P3, it caused most of my raidmates PCs to freeze up for a good 10 seconds.

It wasn’t hardware per say but my connection had me believing until sometime later in TBC that rogue kicks and warrior pummels (vs my mage) had 20-25 yard range as that is what it looked like from my point of view.

I liked vanilla/classic pacing while leveling plus the added factors of gear sometimes lasting a bit longer and trade skills being more useful thru out the leveling process.