Got to admit… It WAS fun being a healer in EQ trying to see if you can get people into your purple club.
100% mana efficiency right there lol! Purple bar was between 0 and -10 hp iirc
Was one of the two Aten blobs where they got me into the purple club. This was also around the time I was starting to realize why I seemed survivable while being a bit lesser geared than the rest of Club Fu’s tanks. All that noob mistake agility I pumped all my starting points into, on top of being a dark elf, actually gave me better evasion stats. When I had all melee stats fully capped later into Plane of Time level where as the rest of them had all but agility, it got very noticeable.
Why am I babbling about this, it has nothing to do with any of this.
Again wrong.
What I wrote was absolutely correct - Holy Paladins simply don’t have the kind of throughput other healers do and they scale poorly with spellpower compared to other healers.
If your raid healing with FoL, you are doing it wrong.
Then all the top players in the world are doing it wrong. I recommend you check logs for Holy Paladins healing in Classic raids.
I raid tanked in EQ for 5 years and can remember 5 cleric rotation on the tank, I was in the purple club more times than I can count. Blow Furious then defensive and hope like hell none went afk
There are healers that take pride in keeping tanks up at 100% as well as the dps. But really it’s not a big deal.
We played on the same server :3 I remember Club Fu lol
It’s not fun to get tight buttchecks if that’s what happens to them, but if you’re letting them dip a little before healing that’s not the worst even if it may not be considered optimal.
I find that if they are all alive at the battle’s end, they tend to be pretty happy. I did get fussed at one time for not wanding in between heals, though, but in that battle, I had to be vigilant in cleansing dots off of people, so I didn’t have time. I just paid no attention to the idot who fussed at me and did my job. It was a mage who was apparently that group’s leader. As a dps, they probably didn’t see what I was dealing with. The mobs were using a ton of status effects that I could not just ignore and heal through, and I doubt the mage would have even seen that. I kept silent and focused on keeping people alive rather than waste energy worrying about their leader fussing at me.
I think that is the only time I was fussed at in a battle.
I do the same thing you do and no one has complained yet.
It’s a waste of mana and Classic for most healers is very much about mana management. I would not advise a healer to focus on topping everyone off all the time. I’d personally consider them a rather uninformed healer who is going to be low on mana when they need it most, or at the very least someone who will be slowing down the group with unnecessary drinking. I mean if they’re at 70% sure throw them a small heal while you’re healing someone else, but if they’re at 90% or something? No I’m ignoring them.
You’re one of the few people on these forums who I’ve found gives consistent, quality advice on healing.
If that’s the playstyle you prefer you might want to check out Priest. Others have already given you solid advice on how to play Pally. Priest is more about waiting for a bit more damage and sending them a big, slow, chunky heal. Our big, slow heals are more mana efficient and due to bigger mana issues as a class, we can’t afford to spam like Pallies can (more so while leveling), so we play a bit differently. You might like it more.
Heal tanks first, dps after anything else is overdoing it, tanks are being dicks at that point, but just tell him that it will mess up your mana pool or something, tanks can’t tell anyone to do anything but pull really, at least, I don’t .
Bears in general I’ve found are great dungeon tanks. It doesn’t really change at 60 from what I’ve seen - they’re still pretty easy to heal.
If I am constantly below 50% health then there is an issue. I’m going to react to this with popping my bear cooldown and if that isn’t up I’m going to do some crazy acrobatics to get out of form and heal myself. So yes that’s a problem. If I’m at 50-75% health then no problem. After clearing mobs I’ll just HOT myself to full anyway.
I think you’re both a little bit correct. The tank probably was a bit anxious and clearly wasn’t in danger of dying. But a slightly lower rank FoL should be the go to anyway in that scenario if you’re a Pally, only bringing out the Holy Light if the tank took a big chunk of damage.
Yep, usually if a tank does this (based on my own experience tanking), it’s out of fear of not being able to deal with a sudden damage spike or the healer getting taken out of commission temporarily (getting CC’d, etc). These things happen a lot with bad/undergeared/underleveled healers.
I’ve never seen someone make that argument about using HL as a priority on Blessing of Light targets (so all raiding and I suppose tanks in dungeons as well)? But it is a rather intriguing argument. I’m curious why I haven’t seen anyone else doing this or even recommending it in guides and elsewhere.
Edit: Also you made a comment about FoL getting +301 healing from Blessing of Light. As far as I can tell it should only be 115 because Blessing doesn’t seem to scale with anything unless I’m misunderstanding that comment.
Personally, for me, I have decent gear and nothing annoys me more than a healer that heals at 90%, because it tends to cause threat issues on an initial engage, particularly if I have a decent pack of mobs i’m busy getting agro on. If you’re bored, wand, but keep things efficient so we med less and take full advantage of the gear.