So you are getting the base heal and thats it? The base heal with 410k health would be 28700 without the talent, with the talent it should be about 37k. So are you just being whittled down and not taking a lot of damage within the last 5 seconds?
If all you are getting is the base heal, which hasnt been touched by the way, then thats on you really.
Even with the talent that improves death strike you would only be seeing a 45k heal baseline. If people are talking about 100K+ crits going out some upwards of 200k and you can only get the minimum heal out, you arent going to survive.
Unless there is another nerf to Death Strike from the past that is still there or something you are seeing the exact numbers you should be seeing for minimum heals.
I play PvP regularly and love to do nothing in WoW but PvP. My favorite class to do so is DK and have been a DK PvPer since they first came out, this recent nerf to DS and all our other defensive kits is unreal to me, sure DS was a bit powerful but it definitely (IMO) didnt deserve such a nerf that it got. the numbers for healing now are just unrealistic to even think that we can survive a 1v1 with practically any class. i get bursted by ret pally getting smacked for 50k+ judgement or templar verdict and watching my health just deplete, and after 5 seconds of that abuse (if I am still alive) i heal with DS for 39k⌠i looked at my logs and meters to get actual numbers. the survivability is just not there now. i cant survive any combat i get into unless i have a pocket healer. im not saying im a professional DK but i think i am good enough to comment my thoughts on it. if it doesnt get reverted at least partially, the only DKs that will exist in the PvP ladders are just the R1 that have other R1 healers and backup DPS to support them. which is a very sad truth. just my thoughts on this all.
Update: Just did another skirmish against ret pally and destro lock, got destroyed and largest DS heal with all that burst was 37,707. 3 total DS was used consuming all my RP doing no damage and only healing for a total of 107k hp. how is that considered even remotely acceptable to survive?
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oh you dont like using a huge chunk of your runic power, a melee global, and your uptime to heal yourself for 20k out of your 440k hp? you dont like that every other class can passively outheal you while flying circles around you? unfortunate.
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Easy to say for a game mode you dont play, and dont understand. Those are very heavy handed nerfs, probably putting us in SL s1 or BFA s1 territory, meaning not viable untill we get enough hp to make up the loss, if ever.
Ive read your resposes to other people, and the only thing they prove are your total ignorance on the subject of pvp, and DKs playstyle in pvp. Thats my observation from reading your posts. You can defend this till youre blue in tbe face but based on what youve said Im going to disagree, and leave it at that.
Keep in mind this isnt a free to play game. A product people pay for just took a massive hit and theyre free, as I am to disagree with the changes. Keep trollin.
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bro stop responding to him, he has 9k posts and 0 pvp achieves.
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Kelliste, no one cares what you think. Shh.
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And no one cares what you think either.
The difference between us, is iâm OK with that. 
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As hard as you ride Blizzard, I doubt that. Lol
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Previous shadowlands nerfs to death strike are in still in effect.
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Because i dont over react to every little thing means im a blizzard shill?
Suuuure.
Then why expect death strike to do any meaningful healing?
I also still dont understand why people arent finding healers. I also dont understand why people think DK is the only thing being touched.
The problem is that the nerfs are so unjustified versus other classes being mentally over the top and are UNCHECKED.
Spear of Bastion doing virtually the EXACT same concept as Abomb Limb: why is this left unchecked? The principle is the same so why are DKs nerfed?
Other classes laugh at death strike, warrior self healing is absolutely insane. If DKs get a nerf to self healing when it was relatively in a good spot (SINCE WE HAVE TO CHOOSE TO SACRIFICE DAMAGE TIME AND RESOURCES TO EVEN REMOTELY KEEP OUR SELVES ALIVE) why are other classes left out of it?
Why do demon hunters get pve burst heals from the demon they can kill IN ARENAS AND BGS? Why are guardian druids still an absolute cancer?
Do you forget that healing cut exists in this game? When you push DS after having healing cut it seems that you lose more hp than gain. No joke. Pushing death strike does NOTHING. And almost 80% of classes have healing cut.
Dk strats are literally ârun awayâ to survive.
WHY IS RUNNING AWAY, AS A DEATH KNIGHT, A DIRECTIONAL CLASS FANTASY.
Stop letting blizzard bully classes because they dont TEST them prior to changes.
What DEVS (NAME THEM PLEASE) ACTUALLY PLAYED A DK IN THE âPLAY WITH THE BLUESâ
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PLAYED THE SAME CLASS (DK)
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Kelliste you are making a lot of substantial claims about these nerfs but I cant find anything saying youâve been in an any arena in the past few years. Do you have any arena pvp experience with dk? Genuinely curious not trying to be mean
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Are people not reading the full blue post? They are working on additional changes and are going to keep an eye on things this week as well. Dec 13th should be another update to other classes.
What claims would that be? Get a healer? Its not a 1v1 game. You should have team mates.
Also if DS is the ONLY thing that matters in pvp when it comes to survivabiluty then the class as a while is fundamentally flawed.
do not respond to kelliste, 9k posts 0 pvp achieves talking about pvp
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