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So I’ve been playing this game since inception and am very familiar with all the twists and turns DKs have taken.

Serious question- what on earth is this unholy rework? Are you truly listening to the player base?

We asked for utility, you remove abom limb. We have been asking for baseline gorefiends for ages. I’m not jumping on the bandwagon and arguing whether or not grip = utility or whatever but the fact is you removed something from our kit that gave us something niche and replaced it with nothing in return.

We asked for less button bloat. You added stuff.

We asked to remove D and D cleaving, it remains. Festering scythe is awesome. Festering strike is not. Frost is going in the right direction for aoe. Make festering scythe available perhaps after desecrate and instead of applying wounds maybe have it apply the remaining damage of all your diseases on the target, or have it open a “festering wound” on the target(s). Instead of popping the wound it’s just a debuff that… maybe makes your diseases guaranteed crits for 10 seconds. Just throwing random ideas out. But you get the gist. There’s so much you guys could do.

Also to continue going on about wounds… festermight. That provides us a lot of dps and I feel like this is a big part of why you’re hesitant to yank wounds. I feel like “when a minion is summoned, gain 1% strength for 20 seconds” or “when virulent plague deals damage while festering wound is applied, gain % strength” given festering is a debuff and not something you pop.

Wounds, minions, diseases… pick one. Most of us want wounds gone. The unholy tree is just so… silly. Like there’s stuff we SHOULD pick but isn’t accessible. Army hasn’t been viable in ages, so maybe get rid of it. I love the change to the extra minion. I would love to see dark transformation transform all minions and pets into stronger versions during the timeframe. Summon gargoyle could be made baseline and turned into a permanent pet option similar to locks who can choose different minions for different situations. Apocalypse could also temporarily summon the other minion that’s not summoned.

Please make the abomination move faster when a target moves far away. You made it faster but it’s still slow as hell.

Please explain the increase to crit dmg for minions and diseases because crit is one of our worst stats. You added value to a stat that isn’t sought after and also made it worse by making it a choice node.

Sanlayn in my opinion adds complexity to an already complex rotation design. You’re focusing on wounds, diseases, and runes then you add in more procs with vamp strike, and gift. Yes there are a small percent of players who enjoy the complexity but most of us do not.

Do NOT combine apoc and transformation. Just take trans off the GCD, that would already help immensely.

I have opinions on Frost but unlike Unholy it seems to have a decent direction but needs proper tuning.

Devs if you read this, scroll back up to my dark transformation/gargoyle idea. I can promise you a majority of the playerbase would be stoked with this.

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Bold of you to assume any dev is on the deathknight forums yet alone reading them…

This is the same blizzard that needed DK class guide writers to remind them that DK has runeforging and corruption weapon enchants wouldnt work in that slot…

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They just seem really out of touch. Like oh you want this, hmm how about this? And it ends up being the opposite of what we ask.

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Its not a rework, its an update.

People have been asking for Apoc and DT to be combined for years… they did it.

Not quite. They’ve asked for less button bloat. Combining the two abilities that both do completely different things makes zero sense.

Given this is the early stages of the PTR, this is only the first few rounds of changes and hopefully they will actually listen and get rid of festering wounds, which would initiate a rework as a result.

No, they have been suggesting that Apoc and DT be combined to reduce button bloat.

I agree, but that doesnt change that people have been asking for Blizzard to do this despite people explaining why its a bad idea. So Blizzard is doing it because its been asked for for years at this point.

Not going to happen mid expansion.

Not a mid expansion thing. Not when the entire class would have to be redesigned from the ground up.

Frost just got a literal rework. Shadow priest just got reworked. What are you talking about?

I have poked around in a lot of these suggestion threads and maybe seen a few mentions of combining apoc and DT. To say the majority of players want this then to immediately follow what you said with “players say it’s a bad idea” isn’t a great supporting statement. Most players said there was button bloat, so blizz made a choice to combine 2 things that don’t make sense, but not because it was specifically requested.

Removing festering wounds would not initiate a complete redesign.

No it didnt. If this is a rework then my mom is Princess Diana.

ouch…

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Looks like your mom is Princess Diana and you don’t know what a raid buff is.

I feel like this Kel guy is trolling every DK thread. Perhaps he spends too much time on the forums and not enough in game.

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Prince Arthas!?

ARM YOURSELVES!!!

If only you knew how much this troll spent on the forums…

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Do raid buffs help the efficiency of the group?

Idk but I think a full time job might keep you off these forums. Please get one.

I dont think they know what a job is… anyways just put ignore on them and your life will go smoother :relieved:

Thank you for proving that you do, in fact, not play the game or raid at any level worth mentioning.

incorrect, people have been asking for DT to be off the GCD for years.

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I have a job. Maybe if you guys grew up and stopped talking about people and spent more time talking about ideas then maybe 50% of my posts wouldnt exist defending myself by people like you and Bloodfalcon. Low count posts that rather talk about people than ideas.

Maybe you should get out of elementary school before preaching to others about how they should live their life.

Incorrect, they have been asking to combine them. There have been people, like you, that said it was a bad idea. I cant believe that you took part in those conversations and then you want to say “people havent been asking for Apoc and DT to be combined even though I directly argued against the change”.

Talk about not paying attention.