We’re not talking about endgame, but “the game” and how you build reputation and relationships. We turned down a number of “good” players with “bad” reps when recruiting as it was felt they’d just cause drama. The few we made exceptions for usually didn’t last.
But if you really believe that being a jerk while leveling is acceptable behaviour then nothing I can say will change your mind.
You need to prove that you can handle yourself with professionalism to get into a worthwhile raid.
And right now all you’re doing is telling me that you ain’t worth it in the grand sea of DPS.
i have joined some groups, and gone by my lock picking rules and not had any problems with it
if they were to say we are rolling for locked chests or kicking me then i dont want to run with them.
my stance is that is my skill, my rules and that goes for all professions too
You seem to be missing the point here.
It’s not about the chest itself, in the end it really isn’t that huge of a item in there probably. It’s about the mentality. It’s about what kind of person are you in a group setting. Are you a selfish, narrow minded prick who will exclusively look out for himself, or are you a team player who is willing to see the big picture and work with others.
The latter is much more desired and valuable in any group or guild. Sure you can probably find groups being selfish, but you’ll have a hard time finding a dedicated group, if you’re happy just bouncing around to different groups until they find out how you are, more power to you. Seems to be a rather counter-productive and unnecessarily antagonistic way to play the game though.
So I skipped like 250 posts because… well because. But here’s my take that I don’t think others have mentioned.
So yes, a locked chest is like an herb. Only certain people can open it and fundamentally, they’re no different. No one group rolls for herbs despite the “we had to clear it to get to it “ logic.
Now where the differences come into play is the potential loot. Lock boxes can have a wide variety of things. People throw BoE Blues/epics to all greed or need even if someone can use it as an upgrade because it’s seen as too much of a monetary benefit for everyone to ignore. If, before I had one, I ran a group and a warden staff dropped while I was tanking, it’s highly unlikely the group would’ve given it to me because even if only I could use it and it was BiS, they don’t wanna pass up their chance at 400ish gold. One herb or mining node or whatever is never going to potentially give that loot. So I think the loot potential plays a role in the community consensus.
I’d also argue that rogues have inherently 3 “professions” because of this and it’s seen more as a utility. It’s something they bring to the group because they don’t bring anything else. Chests are just too important for some to always give to one class. I see no problem tipping the rogue if I win but… just trying to think how others do. I think the BoE items analogy is fairly spot on.
It’s funny he keeps bringing up people looking for warm bodies in raids. I’ve never heard someone say “we need a rogue” other then in dm tribute runs and even then there’s typically a blacksmith or engineer in the party already that can do the same thing. He’s delusional with the retail mindset. He’ll eventually get to max level and be laughed at and come here to the forums to whine about not getting raid invites and how this system is unfair.
to each their own. i think the people that expect me to give up any rewards from my skill are the jerks tbh and i dont want to run with them
i’ll find a good group that isnt like that
About the only dungeon that comes to mind that would encourage me to seek a rogue, would be BRD since it would speed up runs immensely.
Comprehension skills? REally? (…lol) I was not talking about auto-loot. I was talking about how it is one action to unlock and loot. You unlock and it presents you with the loot, whether you have auto-loot on or not, implying the loot is for the one who unlocked it. If it wasn’t then it would act like lockboxes where unlocking and opening are separate actions.
Nope it acts the same as right clicking it actually.
Pick one.
Once a good group sees how you act, or more importantly the mentality behind it, they will kick you faster than you can say “BuT iTs ThE sAmE aS a MiNiNg NoDe”.
Oh ok, good to know. Couldn’t recall exactly, I always just right click lol.
yeah, you’d think it might be different, maybe being the one way to unlock it without opening it at the same time xD. Guess not 
i dont ask people to hand over their stuff from professions, and that is how i treat lock picking
it is like a mining node to me, you dont have to agree it is what it is
already said many times i dont want to run with people like you so i wont mind if they kick
Let me ask you this, see if it puts it into a perspective you can understand.
Do you think only rogues should be allowed to roll for lockboxes that drop in dungeons? If you apply your chest = prof node logic then no one else should be allowed to roll on those. Only rogues can open them just like a chest.
You are the literal cliché of a retail player, you know that?
i dont care about those, i greed roll or pass myself
i play both games, if you think is some kind of insult to me then you are pretty misguided
also played on northdale and nost and the real vanilla, this isnt my first go with classic
Ok then… if everyone in the party can roll on those why not locked chests?
A lockbox is essentially a locked chest just on a mob body not the ground.
lock boxes automatically have a roll window, chests and mining nodes dont
if you are rolling for chests then im rolling for nodes
If i see u mining and herbing in my party and not splitting you’re getting kicked, you dont know im not a miner herber and im the tank