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@Keystones-stormrage

And you have the tools at your disposable to determine before the key is started whether or not that group is capable or not. You choosing to stay and start the run is then your obligation to do what the general consensus of the team wants to do.

Again those tools aren’t always accurate.

Again

@Snozay-area-52

I commited to joining a key expecting people to pull their weight. If people aren’t pulling their weight I am under no obligation to stay.

@Keystones-stormrage

There are 5 of you in the group, it’s not up to you and your fragile mindset to determine when that key holders key finishes just because you aren’t happy with the performance of someone. They chose to invite you out of others that would have stayed, least you can do is respect that.

My mindset isn’t fragile. I don’t do carries for free.

I have left my own key before.

@Keystones-stormrage

When a key is clearly not going to be timed the group usually always mutually calls it anyways, it’s not up to solely you to make that decision, especially considering how many leave when a key is still easily timeable.

At high end yes. At low end if it’s not listed as completion I have zero obligation to stay.

@Keystones-stormrage

Yes this does happen, but it is not the average. There are more tools than ever to see if someone is good. Between WoWOP, raider io, and even looking at their raid logs to see if they are at least competent at pushing their buttons is more than enough to determine whether it’s worth a shot or not.

It happens more than you think.

@Keystones-stormrage

You are the one ruining it by leaving whenever you can’t handle someone underperforming and take it upon yourself to end it for everyone.

I’m not the one ruining it. The keyhole doing tank level dps as a dps and doing zero interupts is the one ruining the key.

@Keystones-stormrage

At the end of the day the bad player will be looked at as nothing more than being bad at the game. You will be looked at as the jerk who ended the run, both scenarios are people you don’t want to play with or have in your group

Do you honestly think I care what pugs think of me?

Considering I don’t get that upset when people have left my own key.