No one in this thread has dismissed MG horde.
The only thing that’s been repeatedly said is that the Horde population is small, That’s not a negative. A fair number of players prefer small tight-nit communities over the mega-populations like MG Alliance.
Reasonable discussion is a must! Nobody is being negative here is right! 
I would def support a server merge, bigger rp community in a server would make the server feel much more alive and create more opportunities for rp
^ idk, this does seem fairly dismissive and negative.
What’s going to happen is probably a lot of alts getting dusted off on either faction, and new characters of both factions getting made.
Worried that Horde is smaller on MG than WrA? Get ahead of it and make a Horde alt before this change is implemented.
I have characters of both factions on both servers. Different server cultures that would make it a bit of a mess to merge them IMO. Might still happen some day but it will be fractured from the start.
For now… cross-faction guilds will be worth as much as you put into them. If your guild is going to allow members of one, more or all of the opposite faction’s races, get it going early!
You’re right but we barely hear or see any of it. Even in the open world we got more chance to see people from a low pop realm such as Shadow Council.
To my understanding UC Nexus is one of the large guild holding a part with the horde RP community. Maybe it’d be good to try maybe work with the Alliance. Because to be honest I did blood Elf mage and I got really lonely on the Horde side.
Reaching out people is not easy when we don’t see a big presence of the horde roleplayers. The only people I see are those from “WHIP IT GOOD”. That certainly is not a name that scream horde community.
Now I don’t mean that everything should be cross faction. But we are all roleplayers (Primary). And I hate needing to jump across servers. But enjoy having different characters, what I’m referring to is accessibility and ease to reach out.
So that way, people can stop to constantly ship everyone to WRA. Because I strongly and firmly believe Moon Guard has a better community and is a better server.
Reading this post, I am a touch confused am not certain how much more MG Horde can do to be more ‘visible’. The most frequent issue I see is that people come to MG Horde, knowing mostly MG Alliance and are disappointed when they discover Org and Silvermoon are NOT the same RP hub as Stormwind. The reality is the Horde lacks a well-polished capital city to hang out in, and rp - and so we often prefer to use the world.
A quick scroll through the server forums shows active recruitment of MG Horde RP guilds. Additionally, The Horde Vanguard was recently founded by the IC RP Horde community to foster and support MG Horde faction rp. I personally post screenshots of active Horde rp events on these forums, and in reddit. There is visible promotion of rp events, and more. The same can be said for discord and reddit activity. My guild alone hosts 2 weekly cross-faction rp events, takes part in Conquest, and hosts rp-pvp cross faction. We also founded the cross-faction community the Eternal Court of Lordaeron.
With the kind support and help of the MG RP community, Dance Of The Dead is possible as a large-scale cross-faction story and event. Due to cross-faction support, this year had 10+ million gold in prizes, and on each night 5+ raids of cross-faction rpers. Blizzard voice actors attended the event to do meet-and-greet sessions with fans. Even WoWHead and Blizzard took notice of this years event.
In 2022, I can think of 15+ crossfaction rp-pvp events that I helped and organized to foster crossfaction interconnectivity in which the Horde and Alliance faced each other down in different manners.
The question I am often left with, how much more is the Horde RP community expected to do to seen as active and worth supporting?
Either way, I gotta go grab my trusty fishing pole and get ready for some casual rp this week. See you at the fishing social. Below are some posted that might be helpful to folks.
This is the visibility I am referring to. Anyone coming on Moon Guard and picking up Horde right now, or even Alliance will not see it because it’s just a bad timing and I pray the phasing is not going to stick around because really put nails in the coffin and impact a lot of what’s going as of right now.
But generally speaking that’s what the most common people, they log on, look for activity. On the Alliance side it is pretty simple. You often see guild doing recruitment with their banner, people wearing costumes, people active.
WRA has that, people hang out in ORG. Silvermoon generally has some stuff going on. Heck even Emerald Dream you can see more people in cities.
I’m not saying there should be necessarily a need of a physical presence. But advertising it in the world would probably help out. Because I have two characters on the Horde I’ve leveled up. And I’ve only seen two Blood Elves chatting in Orgrimmar once in Valley of Honor doing Bar RP.
Honestly it felt discouraging. But I told myself maybe eventually I’ll find a place to put my Horde characters into.
I rather being on my server and make friends locally over externally or WRA. Because I left WRA personally due to not being on par with it’s community which I feel is a bit too extreme and sort of not, very nice. But everyone has their own personal opinion on that.
Yes I’ve seen it being part of a Youtube video. Looked fantastic it was nice to see how many people was there.
I do worry with this phasing how difficult it might be to make more such even still occur.
Honestly, my opinion is this.
The key to seeing a return to visible Horde rp? Is out of our hands. The Horde need viable nice places to rp.
In Cata, blizzard destroyed -the- main hub for Forsaken RP, Brill. For the Forsken RP community, anymore the best place we have for RP is Ambermill. For years Silvermoon has sat ignored, growing more and more painfully out of date. Org is…mostly barren, lacking basic details and immersive aspects to it as basic as chairs.
Meanwhile, the updated Hammerfall outpost in Arathi is polished, immersive, well throughout, and has great rp options. Simple smaller cities in the open world setting are nicer than capital cities for the Horde. It stinks. Until the capital cities are addressed, I don’t see the Horde going back to them.
Enjoy Stormwind, it is a wonderful hub for rp and a blessing to the Alliance community.
I do not disagree with any of this. The Alliance does not really have anything outside of Stormwind either. Sure there is Ironforge at the times but most people just don’t go there.
We have to work we what we got sadly. I think the consensus on that is the general lack of support for RP from Blizzard. Toys can be fun but they only do so much…
Oh it’s pretty dead, honestly this phasing and this new Trading post makes everything around it look so dated. But yes I suppose there’s people, which is pretty essential.
The Stormwind sharding and phasing is temporary. This is done at the start of every xpac, and then is turned off.
This is not true.
I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. The death of an Emerald Dream. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
I have characters in MG and Wyrm. I honestly wish Horde had more people like MG does. I actually dropped Horde again and returned to MG because I enjoy the vibe it holds.
A Horde equivalent to Alliance MG would be fun. I love seeing open RP and walk ups. I legit saw a person rping a librarian, ask for directions and the person escorted her while walking and chatting. That stuff is so cute to me, the world felt alive.
That’s why I don’t really like Horde RP, in MG especially, it’s already really low and it’s too “you gotta be in a guild” instead of more freedom. Having to search that hard for RP isn’t fun to me but I get others like close-knit feelings and that’s perfectly fine but I personally just like the openess better.
It’s worth noting the forums are not used by a large amount of players to any frequency. More in game presence would be beneficial but how does one realistically do so? Good question.
Nobody is coming for the quality of MG horde community. The quality is there. But an average Joe that wants to just rp a troll or something without joining a military or race specific guild he had to look up on the forums might log in, see it’s empty, and just log out. Having a combined server would remedy that particular issue. Which would just generate more community.
So all I have read where people that are upset that the capital cities were not populated enough for their type of RP. This is no different than the doom and gloom of RP being “dead” because of two weeks of sharding in Stormwind.
It is your $15, if you are not happily getting your required dose of RP in the format you like, you can find other games or avenues. It does not require entire mass changes to servers since you are the minority. Even when Stormwind is packed, you are still the minority of players.
There are hundreds of active RP guilds that use the rest of the world for their RP and do open events, and cross-faction events, and just enjoy paying their $15 to do more than sit on a wall and hope someone walks up.
Roleplay is not dead.
We don’t need to merge servers.
Besides, if RP was to die, it technically already did the cause of the time skip, remember those threads? Oh, the tragedy of not being able to RP out those three years and make up some history for your character. RP is dead! /sarcasm
Man. There’s a lot of people who seem to speak for the entire horde community here to defend RP not being dead (nobody said that). Why are these people so confrontational and hostile?
No one here speaks for any entire community. In my opinion both factions are very splintered and full of factions that do not interact with each other, either on purpose or by random happenstance. Alliance has the numbers where that splitting doesn’t matter because there are so many people you can’t really tell unless you are plugged into that sort of thing. When Horde RP splinters and factionalizes you can just see it more noticeably because there are less people to hide behind.
As to why people are confrontational and hostile I would imagine it is because they are defensive about what you are implying and thus lashing back. It is the same anytime anyone talks about this topic in anyway on these forums and it will be like that the next time in comes up in a month.
It is a undeniable fact that people prefer random walkup city RP. Thus the large numbers you see of it in SW. We can all be elitist about it and judge people for it and what have you but that changes nothing about how it is the most popular type of RP. Horde simply does not have that as an option on Moon Guard due to a number of reasons some listed here by others and some implied by others here.
As for a sense of community? I don’t think there is an Alliance community or a Horde community. There are various groups, guilds, projects within each faction that are communities, but lets be real they all hate each other so there isn’t any real overarching faction community and working for one is a fool’s errand.
Well said.
As for hostile? As a whole, a lot of the long-term Horde rp players on the server are frequently subject to the ‘MG Horde is dead’ dismissal of the community. In the worse cases, depending on how the statement is presented, it can feel rudely dismissive of active groups and players if not outright exclusionary to the players on the receiving end of the statement.
Active RP hubs, and communities have to be built and it will take time for MG Horde to grow, but it is growing. However, those of us actively looking to build and grow the MG Horde community consistently struggle against the ‘MG Horde is dead’ being the primary message.
That said, it’s better for people to have server options. It is good to have different servers and places to go. If you want WRA RP, go to WRA for that RP. WRA is unto itself a valid space, and community, and has its own culture and rich history worth exploring. If you want MG Horde RP, help us build: the door is open.
On the topic of the forums - valid and already well known point. Which is why there is visible outreach regarding MG Horde RP on many discord communities, reddit, twitter, and even posted into MG Horde trade chat and general chats in game about rp.
Trust me when I say MG-H and WrA-H shouldn’t mix to hard. There would be a lot of fist-fighting in the streets, and not the zug-zug fun kind!
MG Horde is alive and well it’s just different please don’t put the two severs together. It’s just a super bad plan. You can still do cross faction rps if you want too with friends on different severs but putting them together is really bad.
I’ve always done this, going back to 2005. Because you could have Horde and Alliance toons on the same RP server, I always chose to have my servers be faction specific, so the enemy was always just the enemy. It wasn’t like I’d e question and bump into “Frank’s” alt from the other faction.