For season 1 mages and priests and rogues will be really really really strong.
Locks will be strong in all seasons.
For the majority of Season 1, there will either be low resilience or low potency with somewhat low resilience.
Suspect it will be a mix of both retail and classic players who like to literally 1 and 2 shot the other guy. Ya know, those people who think that’s skill. “Power gamers”.
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Not at all if you’re comparing the top players. You can easily get 400resil as a healer full s1… seventyupgrades.com. I want to see a tournament with everyone in full s1.
Lol or he deletes himself vs a quick warrior with spell reflection up.
If the TBC engine is working properly then reflected spells ignore 100% resilience. This is something I found out the hard way on my mage back in the day.
Not gonna stop the Alliance players from pretending their faction is unviable.
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Human is very strong, so is dwarf… but according to the forums it’s hord or don’t play… zzzzzzzz
Even nelf is situationally good.
I don’t think I’ve ever once heard an alliance player call alliance unviable. It’s literally only horde that I have ever seen say this lol.
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As a casual player who mained an enhance shammy in TBC I loved resilience. it was tough to get all my pieces but once I had them the tables were turned on all the raiders who tried to jump me while I was enjoying my questing. Never should have been taken out of the game, but that’s the exact reason it was.
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Typically horde say this and actually niece it.
Why do you think horde is the most populated faction in pvp?
Question to all who watched it, did you see any surprises? Was the gameplay more advanced with all these years of Arena? Or was it mostly the same ol same ol?
/sigh
Yes, horde racials are very good at pvp, but people consistently undervalue perception and escape artist for the alliance. Both of those racial are very very good in arena and can straight up win games.
The only really problematic racial in arena is actually war stomp. Everything else is pretty reasonable.
don’t forget, TBC also had arena tourny serves back then. Where you just signed up and paid for it and got access to the current PVP gear.
You won’t be on a tourney realm, we are talking about a realistic scenario where even the top teams won’t be able to buy enough Season 1 pieces before the season ends.
Everyone just forgets how arena points even work. The majority of people playing S1 in original tbc just saved points for S2 because the point gains were so low.
The only way to hit these resil levels is to max out enchants and resil gems on blue pvp set gear and honor non-set gear. At this point your potency will be so incredibly low that you will never heal the incoming damage that exists even with capped resilience that lowers drains and dots without needing to wait for late TBC.
You’ll need a tourney realm for that because that reality will never exist in Classic TBC unless its like the last week of Season 1, or if the brackets get insanely bloated for no reason.
Oh for sure; they got rolled by PvP players was the reason.
PvP resilience I think could have been done better in terms of how the stat worked, but overall the concept is solid. A friend of mine thought it was the beginning of the end, he’s quite excited by those things.
I mean I have been watching and playing tbc for years now so there wasn’t anything that was out of the ordinary, I would even say some of the ‘top’ pvpers from retail had a TON of misplays, but obviously with practice they will be so much better. If you mean in terms of now to like 2007 hell yeah it’s way different.
The casters, even tho it was their tourney, obviously weren’t a good match to call a tbc tourney so there are a ton of plays that didn’t even get mentioned. Mir is an amazing rogue and if I remember right on the first fight he had when he was sitting on the druid he perfectly vanished a deathcoil and garroted the druid to eventually get the kill (I could be misremembering which game it was). So plays like this were extremely rare if ever really seen by the average player back then but this is just a standard great play by today’s standards.
I would Love an ATR, trouble is at this point the bugs are really an issue. Hope they fix things soon
Mir is really good; he’s very hard to beat. If he plays he will get R1 if he’s got team mates of even glad capability. Dude is possibly one of the best out there right now.
Yeah I’ve been ‘following’ him for like 2 years now. He doesn’t really post a lot and doesn’t stream really but if you watch UZB he plays with him all the time and doing something like vanishing a melee ranged deathcoil is nothing for this guy. I knew right away he was going to do it when he opened on the druid just because that’s a warlocks only real peel in a high stress situation, I saw he hit it almsot frame freaking perfectly and the casters were just screaming “HE IS STILL ON THE DRUID MAN HE IS NUKING THAT DRUID” and just had to laugh because it’s like you just saw a freaking phenomenal play and you don’t even know you saw it haha
Really shows just how different pvp is in tbc. You could have played the game for over a decade and see something like that and you don’t even know what happened.
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Yup!
I can vanish coil, but he’s way more consistent at close range than me. He’s either got freaking ESP or his reaction time is flawless. The only way I can vanish coil on a close in lock (same as vanishing scream or cheap shot without perception) is by intuition; and for me a tad bit of luck. Gimme 10+ yards then I can by sight, but that guy is on a different level. It’s really fun to see him go even when it’s my rear getting outclassed. Dude is legit one of the fastest players in WoW for reaction speeds. The only way to beat him is to setup his partner for failure because he’s slippery and knows rogue so well.
Specifically tbc rogue.
I would assume it’s a mixture of both tbh.
I’m not a super amazing player anymore, but I’ve played tbc arena for quite some time now. I knew it was coming that’s how I noticed it I was just waiting for it, but I don’t think I can reliably execute a vanish like that consistently without a ton of luck. For how often he does it (I’m pretty sure I caught him doing it one more time in this tourney) it’s absolutely nuts.
I’m actually really curious to see what the average arena is going to be like. I’m wondering if the average vanilla pvp rogue will even be able to vanish a long range deathcoil in arena lol. I know they can in vanilla, but generally that’s in a 1v1 situation and entirely different.