It was?? From day 1 of the xpac it was always just a continuation of DF systems.
TWW is the whale expansion. If you can afford to throw money down the toilet and you purchased EA and the mount, then you are literally funding Blizzard. (Crafting is ludicrously expensive also.)
They are desperate. You are feeding them. What more information do you need? It’s like feeding a dog, you don’t need any other info.
I would rather give the PoE devs my money at this point. Time has eroded this game and company into confusion and desperation and disparity.
WoW’s fun when you don’t have a miserable person telling you it’s not.
Honestly dunno, nothing looks standoutish but I’m not going to bother getting the expansion until it goes on sale. I’m in no rush since the start of most expansions has been mostly boring with a feeling of being underpowered compared to the middle of the expansion.
I’m having enough fun running old content to pick up toys, pets, transmogs, and mounts I missed. Since the latest expansion rendered the heart of azeroth completely inert, I see absolutely zero point in chasing after the Current Shiny of the Expansion. Whatever it may be this time, if there is one. I mean it’ll just get thrown into the trash with all the others when the expansion’s over.
I finnle have a solid guild a group to play with again. Havnt had this since WoD so WoW is definitely back for me.
Ahhh… That’s the difference then. I avoid pugging and mostly M+ with friends in discord.
I agree we are feeding them. Artists and coders and game designers all gotta eat! I disagree we don’t need other info. We each need to decide if our money is well spent. For me it is. The story is more interesting than Dragonflight. The art and music are amazing. The gameplay is good, if not always pug friendly.
At the end of the day, profitable games get supported; unprofitable games wither and die.
Agreed the mythic+ killed this expac so far.
Narrow meta and some classes broken in a bad way to were its not even close for them to get in. Few devs have thier classes and thats it.
Difficulty, making tanks squishy, constant nerfs, poor balencing of dps classes for pve. Oddly they put more efforts into pvp balence.
Yet healers are god mode in pvp.
Prior expacs could gear up mythic sets by doing equivalent 8s, now its 10 only to appese snobs, and they nerfed vaults to where you can go months without ups even if grinding 10s and wanting to hang yourself. I know people who grind 10s and are stuck at 628 because mythics dont pop in vault.
Delvs offered a slight reprive but that 1% of elitest complainers killed thier loot tables. Honestly if you do 11 delvs you deserve a myhic vault and a chance at decent loot not bound to delv only garbage. Lowest population ever doing mythic+and people are stagnate doing only holliday event stuff because time sink isnt worth grinding 10s. Even 8s is pushing it.
Personally I took three years off, starting in mid Shadowlands. Coming back, I launched into Dragonflight and then TWW feet-first. I had such a good experience that the wife joined back up too, and we’ve been chasing the story threads, hunting pets, running old raids and current dungeons, doing delves, crafting, and generally trrating things with the wide eyed excitement of a new game. We don’t look things up when we can help it, we don’t focus hard on gearscore and we dont care about PvP, we just do what sounds fun that day. We’re having the most fun we’ve had since WotLK, and we’re both players from the Vanilla days. I love that the faction war has been sidelined, it makes no sense to keep the hatreds stoked 24/7, we’ve faced too many apocalyptic situations together. Perhaps im the unusual one, but I’m seeing less toxicity and general jackassery than I ever have, I’m in the biggest guild I’ve ever joined, and I’m having the best time I’ve had in more than 13 years of WoW. Most of the misery I hear about seems to be exclusive to some people’s feelings on story, which will always be based on personal tastes (though I like what ive seen so far), or more commonly on PvP and M+, which… well, I can’t offer an opinion there. I don’t care to compete with others or strive to push myself as hard as I can in speed oriented dungeons, and maybe that’s allowing me to recapture the simple joys of exploration and relaxed recreation in an alt friendly environment. Maybe I’m just a filthy casual, but it definitely feels like the current state of things is perfect for those.
You know people who are stuck at 628 because they don’t actually play the game. You can craft a half dozen 636 items without ever touching a 10 and we’ve had so many weeks to get myth vaults they just aren’t playing.
TLDR you’re full of it.
What was specifically changed?
That doesn’t make sense because if you do one 10, you’ll get a mythic item. Unless you mean the loot that does roll in the vault isn’t good, that’s generally been the case - and I’d argue was the worst in BFA when you had to get lucky with azerite gear before changes were made.
You can also craft 636 gear after only running 8’s for crests.
All that stated, the changes were very jarring for me initially and I do wish we had a sort of currency system as in S4 DF to pick up certain weapons and trinkets. That was delightful
So far into the season (which feels dead already) I’ve liked Dragonflight more.
Also after several seasons of “upgrade tracks” and weekly half sparks, game developers still havent figured out it correctly, current system is garbage for players who have been farming Mythic track items and would like to switch to a new main or alts without being left behind.
Really glad that people are slowly realizing that the talent revamp was actually done quite badly. Hero talents are cool, but they are built upon a bad foundation. I was excited for the revamp but when I saw what they were actually putting out it slowly killed my excitement. When I could actually play them after DF launched it didn’t get better, I just stopped enjoying the moment-to-moment gameplay, so I stopped logging in. Pretty much having a repeat for TWW and to be honest, they may not get another shot for Midnight unless they make some considerable changes. (I’m not expecting much.)
I feel like they should have just made each spec have a solid base kit and then you “invest” points into the parts of the kit that appeals to you the most. Especially with how long each spec has been around and how many iterations they have had. Each person who has picked up each spec at different times has different opinions on what that spec is about. Then they get mad and drop it when an iteration shifts the spec away from what they considered its “identity.” Some specs have this real bad. (looking at you Spriest)
Ultimately, I don’t think Blizzard devotes enough resources to class development and it shows with how much seems unfinished with TWW’s launch.
Not to come off rude, but I know sometimes this forum just uses the last character I was on to use as my avatar for the forum. The guy might have countless max level characters and was making an alt and then just got tired of it. Obviously he’s not level 10 if he understands the new capital
Dang way to age yourself… you must have been playing since…
Ah that makes sense ![]()
This is why Ive been considering changing Mourne’s “fur” to gray.
I’m pretty bored with wow. I have 3 characters 620+ and don’t have it in me to gear up another. The story at this point feels pretty lackluster. Wow is missing the adventure aspect and has been for some time. I was hoping they would create a classic+ for the anniversary that would include Vanilla + BC as one with updated models and quality of life improvements. I feel like that would be extremely popular more so than this expansion.
We have ran out of good villains and saving the world for the 47th time kinda loses its appeal… “This time, for real for real Azeroth is in great peril… for real.”
I’d be all for a remastered version of wow from the start though.
No, TWW did NOT bring wow back for me. I cancelled my 18 year subscription because of developers actions.
DF and TWW are staunching the bleeding and they are meant to be worldbuilding into a bigger story so I guess they would be slow.
Dragonflight brought WOW back. It was basically dead after Shadowlands.