I understood it completely backwards. I thought you had to want to go to the later expansions. I thought it would be like playing beta. If you wanted to go to TBCC you’d log into TBCC and press some button to bring your character.
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You’re just making things up. Blizz never said a word about TBC until Vanilla Classic was almost over.
Demand on the forums means nothing. This project was billed as a Vanilla server. If players wanted to progress their characters to TBC, then fine. But that should not have been done automatically.
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This project was a direct result of community demand. You can’t pretend that you had no idea that there would ever be a TBC when the community was screaming for it from every rooftop. You also can’t pretend that Blizzard said nothing when they literally sent out questionnaires on the subject.
What you’re saying has nothing to do with anything. Blizz never said there would be a TBC server until late into Vanilla Classic. Whenever they were asked the only thing they said was ‘we don’t know yet’. Which, to be fair, was certainly a lie.
But the fact remains that this was a Vanilla server. Players made characters for a Vanilla server. It is, again, idiotic that the default position was to force players’ characters into TBC instead of remaining on the Vanilla server.
I’m not arguing there wasn’t ample warning. I’m saying the way Blizz did it was backwards. Characters should have stayed in Classic era by default. What Blizz really should have done was just clone characters to both Vanilla and TBC without players having to pay for it. But greed rules all at Blizz.
I empathize with the OP because anyone with a logical mind would assume their characters wouldn’t be moved without them taking action to do so.
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Not everybody is and was on the Forums from day one. If you only see and read communications from Blizz, Vanilla servers seemed to be the thing they made, and no mrntioning of TBCC for a very long time. These questonnaires you mention, were NOT sent to everyone, I certainly never saw one, even if I made a Classic accoint from a bit before naming reservation was released and have played - and paid - continually since then.
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I understand both sides. On one side the majority did want to go to TBCC and Era was pretty barren. I knew others who quit before TBCC because they didn’t want to play that and hopefully, they picked Era instead of TBCC if they ever plan to come back.
On the other hand, regardless of that, it is true that Blizzard waited a very long time to announce TBCC and there was no “for sure” about that. I used to type a lot of “if” words when talking about it. Some were speculating a Classic + but yeah TBCC was always more likely. I can see why people didn’t expect this and Blizzard doesn’t tend to think a lot about people who quit or why they quit although the second thing doesn’t really apply so much here.
Also, I get why people want their toons to stay as they were. I hated seeing my original Vanilla character change so much. I no longer can even recognize it really. That’s one of the reasons I paid for the clones I did.
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I accept responsibility for not doing whatever it was I needed to do, but I just somehow missed that memo.
They sent multiple emails.
There was a free option to keep your character on a classic era server.
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They did NOT send out a single email about the clones.
This point has been brought up multiple times in these threads
NOBODY has been able to provide proof of any such email existing, but multiple people, including myself can testify that we never once received an email about this subject.
Provide a screenshot of these supposed “multiple emails”, otherwise you’re just talking out of your a**
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Whether your sub was active or not or unless you took yourself off their mailing list, you got regular emails (the one linked with your account) about the Blizzard products they knew you to be interested in.
For example, I got emails while unsubbed for years every time they were rolling out a new WoW expac, sales on those expacs and other WoW related items (6/12 month subscription packages), patches etc.
In the body of every one of those emails was a link to their newsletter along with the option to subscribe to said newsletter. Inside the newsletters were the announcements about what was going on with the game(s).
Im guessing people didnt read the newsletters. Oh well…
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That is a ridiculous amount of mental gymnastics and moving the goalpost.
Goes from: “shoulda read the email”
Response: “They didn’t send an email about it”
To: “oh, well you should have opened that email about call of duty warzone you got and clicked the links in it to go to blizzards website to find the information about the clones, its your fault for not looking deep enough”
Blizzard did not send emails about clones, fullstop, stop trying to spin it, they dropped the ball
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Pot kettle blah blah.
I’ve been mentioning this since those guys started fraudulently stamping their homemade victim cards with their crocodile tears and dollar store distressed inks. Blizz sent advertisement emails out, those emails had links to the newsletter which told you to click on it or subscribe to stay up on the latest news about WoW - if you hadn’t been doing so already. Emails or no emails, players who didn’t clone have zero excuses - case closed. Blizz can do what they want with their games, cry me a river.
It doesn’t matter if Blizz sent emails or not, Blizzard doesn’t owe anyone anything. You even have to agree to that in order to play the damn game in the first place. To stage a grievance from that starting point onto either not cloning cuz screw Era or not cloning because you were completely out of the loop for 2 years by choice is beyond absurd. Its not Blizzard’s fault and if its not Blizzards fault but we still need to place the blame somewhere tell me what mental gymnastics is required to put it where it belongs.
In spite of all the sob stories about war deployments, prison sentences, elongated hospital stays and no internets in the big city orphanage, half of the people complaining about lost clones were people who simply didn’t clone and just rode the TBCC and Wrath C wave and didn’t care about Era until 5 min ago.
If you love Era that much just reroll. If you think you’re entitled to a boosted Era toon and cant be bothered just sleep in the damn bed you made.
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you absolute muppet.
add “https: // ibb. co/” (no spaces) before each of the following:
mJ2J8yb
wRjFL6d
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Honestly, delete your account. You are going to sit here and accuse me of lying, demand me to prove to you that i’m not a liar. Now that the proof is in, I hope you will do the honorable thing and admit your mistake, apologize, delete your account, and go play a game that is more your speed, perhaps candy crush or hello kitty island adventure.
I know of course that you’re just going to block me and continue to push your conspiracy theory, but truly, you should be ashamed of yourself.
I’m frankly glad that your geared out classic character is stuck on a WOTLK server. Enjoy classic mists of pandaria.
This x1000, except “half” is a gross underestimate. It is more like 99.99%.
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I thought i was the only one. Even the patch right before the current one was much better than what they have now on wrath.
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On your part, yes there is. They sent mails.
Can I suggest using preformatted text</> so you can put the whole links if you can’t post pics, I don’t think they have the intelligence to do what you suggest.
https://ibb.co/mJ2J8yb
https://ibb.co/mJ2J8yb
https://ibb.co/wRjFL6d
https://ibb.co/844jfZV
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If they had sent one - JUST ONE - email with the subject: Character Clones in Classic is closing down. Then you would have been right. but how many care to read a newsletter about expansions and sales in a game you’re not playing right now?
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The goalposts are moving at the speed of sound. We’re at the point where people are saying that it doesn’t count because blizzard’s emails didn’t have the right subject line.
Do you have no moral agency? Are you incapable of taking actions and bearing the responsibility for the consequences of your actions?
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This is what I have said all the time, not moving anything.
One, single email TELLING us they closed the service.
And I have no interest in this, as I did keep almost all characters in Classic, played all the time, and read - cursorily - all email communication from ActiBlizz.
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Someone with moral agency would read the many emails blizzard sent about the cloning service, decide whether to take advantage of the service, and then take the actions necessary to implement their decision.
You, lacking in moral agency, were unable to accomplish this.
Why do you need an email to say a service was closed? You still would have missed your chnace at that point.
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