Also OP if you are talking leveling dungeons the stat squish had a big effect on that. Since Wrath leveling LFD has mostly been a cakewalk and people are used to ignoreing mechanics and zerging everything. The stat squish really changed that but people still expect to be able to zerg it.
Letâs be honestâŠ
We all are not that decentâŠ
Well the reality is since they got rid of PVP gear, there just isnât as much incentive to PVP, as to me getting a good PVP gear set was part of my PVP progression, donât get me wrong there is still a sense of progression with these PVP points that add up, but to me itâs just not the same as getting that epic PVP set, you know what I mean?
Well in vanilla WoW if you didnât group up you would have terrible gear and at level 60 you wouldnât even be in full blues without dungeons so people had incentives to learn to play in a party.
Today, you can get to level 120 without ever grouping up and you can get acceptable gear without ever grouping up. So when people get bored and decide to queue LFR or heroic/mythic dungeons, of course they are terrible. Some of them never had to learn to play in a party.
Same here.
the game its self has made it common for players to not give a crap.
I quit and Iâm only coming back for Classic. Only way I would try retail again is if classes are fixed.
Its funny because classes are even worse on Classic.
No classes in Classic are unique and fun, like they should be in a rpg. Unlike retail where they are all homogenised.
Is hating on Classic all you do?
Iâm fairly confident you could give a monkey a keyboard with those buttons and flash the colored lights the robots give, and it would hit the right buttons.
Remind me. What are the tank classes available in Classic?
Spoiler
If you said anything besides âProt Warriorâ, you are wrong.
Someone that only hates on retail is asking someone else if hating on Classic is all they do?
Garbage game breeds garbage player, no surprise.
Try FFXIV instead, stance dancing and stuff is still available there.
For the most part the community is very welcoming too
But I donât want to play a garbage game and become a garbage player. Why would I go to FFXIV?
True
I play both and enjoy both for different reasons. Lol
This is just my personal impression, but I feel like with discord, communities, guilds and the age of the game most of the âbetterâ players tend to have a group of friends or similarly skilled players they group with so they donât appear in randoms and pugs as often
I have you know, I have been living the Huntard life way before BFA was a gleam in a developers eye.
I have been doing some timewalk dungeons, every time I get pit of saron 2-3 players eat ickâs poison nova or get one shotted by the skeleton mages before getting inside Tyrannusâ cave.
It is hilarious how they do not move dangerous stuff or try to interrupt deadly spells.
Itâs called a mmoRPG for a reason. Classic didnât have specs it had classes. Pallys and druids went good at tanking raids but they brought utility that warriors couldnât.
Retail is bad and we complain about it because hopefully blizzard will see it and fix the game.