DF or TWW? which one is the better expansion?

Personally I love Blitz, it is too bad it destroyed solo shuffle though. Maybe needs more healer incentives idk?

I just want to log on and Q for rated Pvp and not spend hours finding people to play with.

That being said some rewards are very lack luster. Need some alternative mounts for lower tiers that are not Glad.

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DF did have that ret rework that ruined arena for a bit. But i would say this latest patch and how buggy and unbalanced the game is, war within is the worst i have ever played. On top of all the MMR issues,

they killed the expansion for PVP before it even started everybody already stopped queueing. They need to look at the OP specs like spriest,feral,ele and BM and nerf them in pvp already

Fly hacking in BGs also common, and then hacks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI_UwJ9JTfo.

I had fun in WoD pvp on some classes, but others were mind numbingly boring compared to previous iterations (mage frostbolt doing 0 damage compared to ice nova/comet storm). Also I don’t think anyone really took rating seriously given all the shenanigans which went on.

TWW all day.

It wasn’t meaningless, and boosting was really active back then. AWC was very relevant as well with in person conventions, which made arenas even more relevant.

Fewer modes to spread the playerbase across too.

df for now but only because it’s way too early to tell with tww

df s2 (minus aug) was pretty sick

to add to the question, df was the best we’ve had since mop

still blows my mind lol

happens with every xpac tho, just look at the posts on sl

TWW S1 has awful class balancing, I know the devs are trying as best as they can, also blizz is killing PVP participation with MMR squeeze at start of the season and removing PVP vault.

I unironically agree with this. It’s time for people to be punished for bad plays and rewarded for good ones.

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I’d strongly argue that TWW is much better for gearing than DF was.
I couldn’t jump into rated 2s and bang put my conquest back cap in 1 evening in DF.
I logged in the first time on Sunday finished to 80 monday and got most of my gear before logging out on Monday.

Heck the bloody tokens gear in DF was blue with a weekly allowing you 1 piece of the comparable to conquest warmode gear.
Currently bloody tokens gear is just 3ilvls under best conquest.

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The overall xpac was terrible, but WoD definitely had the best version of pvp gear and sucks that it took so long to get back to it.

Conquest cap didn’t fully roll over so in the event you didn’t cap one week you were perma behind for several months

Elite gear was full conquest piece price so if you started late you couldn’t buy your elite set

Timegated bis locked behind rng weekly Ashran crates

Even Shadowlands was better

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I didn’t mean how gear was acquisitioned, I just meant purely how it worked.

No messing with pvp only stats to try and balance the strength of top pve vs pvp gear.

That’s my only point.

both are mid just like shadowlands, they’re fun at least

whoever is designing PvP obviously only PvEs however, some solo shuffle games feel like a glorified dungeon pull

I miss the DF Havoc. I am enjoying TWW more in general though. WPvP is fun, PVP gearing is better and levelling alts has improved.