DF actually has the highest retention rate of subscribers compared to the last three expansions. This is compared to Shadowlands where you had huge initial sales, but then you lost half the playerbase a quarter later.
The main reason has to do with how often they’re dumping out content patches. People have more of a reason to stay subscribed if there’s something new every 2 months.
I agree, this is the most boring story they have put out to date.
They did extensive work to make lots of content, but they neglected to add any end game systems to support them. All we have for gaining any meaningful repeatable reward is the most vile manifestations of esports in existence. They built an inviting inclusive looking game world and made it so everyone hits a brick wall of overtly hostile fake elitists selling carries. It’s disgusting to most people.
DF is okay to me, I found gearing really accessible and easy to catch up on, raiding in S1 was fun(haven’t tried on this season), the content cadence is amazing and it has some fairly fun side activities… for the first few times you do them and while the dragon’s story isn’t exactly my cup of tea, at least it isn’t Shadowlands tier
Biggest issue with WoW it’s that it feels like it wants you to play it as much as possible but the content is way too damn repetitive to do so and rarely has any innovations. The open world is braindead easy and more of the same activities, having fun in M+ can only last so long, eventually it becomes more like a job and gear is your sallary, raiding can be hell to schedule and awfully difficult to join a guild’s raid core and don’t even get me started on just how much the community Blizz fostered in this game pisses me off sometimes.
I’ve been just playing WoW in small doses I suppose, I usually play for like 2 maybe 3 weeks within the same month, sub runs out and if I am not part of a raid core I just quit and come back when a new patch or two has dropped and I have actually new and refreshing content to do. Of course, Blizzard’s fixation on FOMO makes it painful sometimes to quit or you keep regretting that you didnt get something limited that you really wanted, but it is what it is.
(Basically TL;DR?) So to me, DF is pretty average, it is what I had come to expect from Blizzard if they hadn’t done the “tug of war” stuff against the community in BFA and Shadowlands and weren’t neck deep in controversies and beyond completely unprofessional workplace culture, because those two expansions made the bar pretty damn low, it gives off the illusion that DF is one of the best expansions in this game.
I’m guessing you’re talking about M+?
Ironically, Blizzard e-sports are an utter failure. The OW league is pretty much dead, and no one watches MDI or the Arena matches.
It is a real shame the greed that was displayed by Blizzard the last 10 years. They killed so many of their games or hurt the IP chasing metrics and esports.
I think they would make more money putting effort into making content, cool cosmetics and improving the story instead of chasing these hamster wheel designs.
People, it is okay to run out of things to do in the game during content lulls, this idea that you need seasons of running the same 8 dungeons over and over again is making the game just stupid boring.
I feel like M+ has devoured the World of Warcraft we all fell in love with.
E-sports killed casual dungeon crawling, and that is something I’ll never forgive.
The fact people “love M+ so much” tells me I’m playing the wrong MMO.
Thankfully other games like Deep Rock Galactic, and FF14, give me the sprawling dungeon crawls I crave.
No, regular people at least do stuff in the world, lmao.
These dragons, the leaders of their kind, basically sit and act as puppet-leaders while we do anything of actual substance.
Ebonhorn and Kalec and probably the ONLY two that deserve any recognition. The rest?
Alexstrasza is actually one of the worst offenders, imo. She legit didn’t even think about the dragon-slaves that kept the island running while everyone was gone, not even a thought in the back of her head, until we bring it up. She’s also the reason why the Primalists got locked up instead of outright killed, and she might’ve forced the Titans upon them as well, which isn’t too bad, but she didn’t think about how wrong it might have been, not even once? Lol.
Nozdormu. He’s literally be standing around in fear, until we confront what he’s afraid of (himself lol) thanks to Chromie. In fact, Chromie should be the Aspect at this point, lol. Maybe they’re building up to that? She saved his life, our timeline, and everything in it including ourselves.
Merithra/Ysera, eh, I guess we haven’t seen their slice of the story yet. At least Ysera wasn’t sitting atop Valdrakken doing nothing, because she’s been dead, returned to life, and transferred her power over.
But yeah. All-in-all, pretty weak stuff, and makes the dragon aspects, some of them, look like real garbage lol.
Dragons are supposed to be monsters. Ferocious, dangerous, and greedy. Nefarian and Deathwing were probably the best dragons WoW has ever had, along with Wrathion and Azuregos.
WoW turned them into cute elf-scaly hybrids, that are overly emotional about personal problems, that can be solved by mortals quite easily.
DF has a higher retention than previous expacs, even Legion. DF is not getting any new players in the door, but it’s stopped the bleeding that other expacs like SL were doing.
Blizzard cannot lie about this fact, because that would count as lying to shareholders which is illegal afaik. They can flub numbers using workarounds like MAUs, they can omit details, but they cannot lie unless they want to get into trouble, and they’ve gone on record saying that DF has better retention.
And I really have no idea what people are talking about that it’s dead. Maybe because I play on a populated server, but Valdrakken is always full of people, events are always full of people.
People really, really want DF to be dead, and it’s just not. Sorry, it’s a better expac than SL and more people are playing it than people were playing SL this same time in 2021.
Not exactly what i meant by regular people but they definitely lost their mystique. Their personalities are too relatable to what would be another human as opposed to a mythical eternal dragon
no one plays
It’s not over yet. We’ll see how the playerbase looks back on it…WOTLK and MOP had tons of player complaints when they were live, far more than there are for dragonflight right now. MOP and WOTLK are considered to have been good expansions.
That being said, I’m enjoying Dragonflight so far.
its meh. it needs more rewards for doing things that have a lengthy grind. like unique dragon riding mounts or standard ones.
We need more of characters like arthas, illidan and garrosh and less dragons with feelings.
It’s like watching the Shib guys talk about how Shib is mooning at +6% when it lost 80% of it’s value since 2021.
Frame of reference is always a problem with people. DF has many of the problems BFA and SL had. Specifically class vs encounter design, weak story and contrived opinions on what an MMORPG is. The latter specifically entails how all the really terrible ideas infiltrated the game and became the dominant changes with a much smaller but more vocal community.