There’s a lot to be said for Infernal’s increasing power over the years as a CD and how much it dominates Destro’s kit, but the fact that the CD directly enables a generally inaccessible rotation (ie: CB spam) is exciting and refreshing.
Contrast with NP, a similarly long CD that demands a subpar rotation to get value. Why does one alternative rotation feel good and the other doesn’t? A few reasons, but one of the biggest is resource generation.
NP should passively generate 1 soul shard every second or so. This would actually affirm and enable the rotation Blizz seems to want during its duration (HoG spam) by eliminating wasted globals on shard gen. It would also making it less punishing to interrupt your turreting to handle mechanics, because once you’re able to cast again you’re casting spenders (getting portal value) not generators.
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I like this idea, but I’d take it one further. Just have the portal spawn a demon every 2 seconds or whatever balances it while also generating shards. Keep it like 16 seconds and then you can add some value with other talents. Because of mechanics in today’s game you’ll never get full value from it, or rarely, and it screws with the normal rotation. Especially if it stays a 3 minute cool down they should do something.
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That might make it too powerful. You’ll already get a lot more value by just spamming spenders if they made this change.
Nether Portal should just passively summon minions every 1 second. Wilfred’s Summoning should also effect Nether Portal’s CD. This way you don’t have to worry about spamming Hand of Gul’dan with just 1 shard. Think of it like Dimensional Rift where you pop it instantly and let it do its thing. Gul’dan’s Ambition Should not be tied to Nether Portal and should be it’s own cool down where it completely consumes and destroys all active minions when summoned and it would be a very powerful summon that would have its own abilities you can use on command and deal very effective damage.
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I would actually like the Pit Lord to replace Demonic Tyrant.
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The Felguard end capstone should replace our Felguard with Fel Lord with new Fel empowered abilites like Fel Spire/Empowered Felstorm etc etc
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Just drop NP and let us have the pit lord as our main pet. Or even a selection of greater demons to choose from.
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Nether portal’s main problem is that it does not summon a minion for every shard spent but for every time you spend a shard. Imagine the amount of benefit you would get from the portal if you summoned 2-3 demons from it every HoG you would be at 6 for the new tyrant buff and the 2 -4% for the greater demons needs to be buffed to 5-10 making it 15-30 for a greater demon. The pitlord should be allowed to be extended for every demon summoned on the portal and be effected by tyrant and vice versea. The pitlord should give 3-5 stacks of demonic servitude that way the pitlord can act as a general for your demonic army while the tyrant acts as his underling. The 2nd in command imo and of course a demons 2nd in command should be rewarded, of course you are at the top and you command the pitlord. The goal of this would be to keep the pitlord out as long as possible. Add a choice for nether portal to work with Wilfred’s and it will become your main cd and work with this game play. It would be a fun build imo of course you need to tune damage and other things ect but I’ll leave that to the nerds.
Whats strange is that its obvious the current nether portal doesnt work nor is it better than just tyrant.
They have data on it being behind talented tyrant but refuse to change it. An ability that has a cast time/resource cost/hefty cd and only summon on shard is never going to be good especially with force turret mechanics that if it mess up it gets even worse than its mediocre performance.
One would think with all these drawbacks this ability should be blowing up the dps charts. But it seems the devs are fine with its underperformance and mechanic for the past 2 expansions now.
There are other specs with dps cooldowns that have no resource cost,no cast, low cds and just stupidilly powerful.
Unfortunate for a very thematic ability.
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NP should spawn random demons every few seconds so that we’re not going into this shadowbolt HoG rotation because that rotation feels bad. I’d really like to see this changed so that it A) is competetive like Tyrant and Hold This for Me and B) it would make it more synergetic with the rest of our abilities.
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Agreed it should be a consistent yet random type of demons prob one every 1 second or 1.5 seconds. And then buff the talent that was just added for each soulshard to provide an additional chance to spawn one. Something like 20% for one point invested, 40% for 2
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