@Devs, Get rid of Mythic+ or change it!

[Dreta-stormrage]

@Malsethiron-moon-guard

Why would you remove a large part of the game that others enjoy? Sense makes none.

Spite, seemingly.

[Nobleshield-bleeding-hollow]

Removing it isn’t the answer, I’ll say that. My personal issue is the timer and the mindset that goes with it (I tanked for long enough to utterly despise “gogogo”). But I’ll also admit it looks fun. Maybe I’ll give it a shot in Shadowlands since I’ll have a guild again to do things with

[Dreta-stormrage]

If you were Alliance I’d bring you along for some training keys.

[Hezzie-hyjal]

M+ is the only reason im subbed.

Sorry you dont like it.

This topic is like me saying “football is stupid. We need to cancel the nfl or change it”

[Gunther-grobbulus]

This topic is like me saying “football is stupid. We need to cancel the nfl or change it”

Really does sound like that doesn’t it?

Yeah I’m too scared to do M+ I know that cuts me off from a lot of gearing oppritunites I can do as a solo player… but I also think it has its place in the game and doesn’t need changing.

[Millenka-thrall]

So the real problem here, as I’m seeing it, is that those who dislike the focus on beating the timer dislike it because they are running other people’s keys and can’t control whether or not those other people want to progress their keys.

The simple solution is to just run your own keys. Start your own groups and make it clear to whoever you invite that you’re not worried much about beating the timer and just want to finish the run and get loot. They lose nothing if the timer isn’t beaten.

[Nowise-dalaran (Nowise)]

@Nobleshield-bleeding-hollow

And that’s enough to have people treat the timer as the main focal point of M+ rather than the timer being an added bonus

Of course it is, that’s how you upgrade to the next difficulty.

[Margirita-perenolde (Margirita)]

I think simply not having the keys decrease when failed would go a long way in resolving some of this tension. (Put the power to decrease a key as a button option on the font of power.)

Just have the key change to a different dungeon of the same level when failed.

Also on a side note: What is the better roll? A roll of 100 or a roll of 69?

[Nobleshield-bleeding-hollow]

Right, and that to me is the entire problem. The timer seems like it was intended as a bonus, not the goal, and people don’t use it that way so it fosters a toxic environment.

[Ohgodmyeyez-hyjal]

@Hezzie-hyjal

“football is stupid. We need to cancel the nfl or change it”

This really does kind of sum this up pretty adequately.

[Patchs-proudmoore (Patchs)]

Who knows: maybe OP is getting so frustrated he’s banging his head against the wall and getting concussions!

Mythic+ induced CTE is a real problem

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

I agree. I loved dungeons, ran them all the time. For the last 2 expansions I barely step into one because the go go go speed runs are NOT FUN, and every difficulty has become a speed run.

[Ohgodmyeyez-hyjal]

@Patchs-proudmoore

Mythic+ induced CTE is a real problem

Or at least, it will be in a couple of decades, right?

[Caelin-boulderfist (Caelin)]

So don’t run them, there is other content you can do. It was added to give non raiders a gear path that was close to that of raiding.

[Slicy-anathema-765810]

@Pwnology-dalaran

After 10 years of not playing WoW, I come back

You should leave again if you’re just going to come back and ask to remove content others enjoy so much

[Natami-thrall]

I have no problem with Mythic+, there are a lot of people that really enjoy. I wish I was one of them, but I’m not; I hate the very idea of a timer. I would really like Heroics to be relevant again though.

I’d like to to be able to gear through Heroics, or something similar that increase in difficulty without a timer. Yes, I know that your don’t HAVE to beat the Mythic+ timer, but that is what every group wants and expects. It becomes a rushed and unenjoyable activity for many of us.

I’d like to see currency added back at the completion of a dungeon, like MoP Valor Points, with which gear can be purchased. IMO, it’s far more satisfying to run content, even repetitive content, and be able to progress towards towards a goal. RNG awarding a thing just isn’t rewarding. Also, Titan Residuum is a poor substitute due to the RNG in getting is from Azerite gear.

[Margirita-perenolde (Margirita)]

If you find yourself randomly wanting to choke a panda NPC who said the line “slow down, life is to be savored” you may be experiencing the adverse effects of long term exposure to mythic plus timers.

I recommend NAP…the one punch super cure all that will clam you down and help you get thru those feeling of murder rage. Warning: adverse effects may equal bad hair, being yelled at by significant other, having your cat sleep on you and waking up in odd positions.

[Ohgodmyeyez-hyjal]

@Margirita-perenolde

I recommend NAP

Can confirm, NAP changed my life.

[Blackgaia-thrall (Blackgaia)]

“I haven’t played in ten years but I’ve come back for 30 seconds to say remove content”

Ok

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

@Caelin-boulderfist

So don’t run them, there is other content you can do. It was added to give non raiders a gear path that was close to that of raiding.

I don’t run them, but that’s not the problem. Lower difficulty has become a training ground for mythic+, everyone runs thru them as fast as they can and uses them to learn the skips and other stuff to help in mythic+. And that completely ruins the other difficulties.