Dev confirmed on Twitter,Horde is helping alliance reclaim Gilneas

Lillian would have done the same thing. Is she not Horde?

As far as I know Lillian and Calia aren’t the same person, I was referring to Calia.

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I feel like Genn would not only rebuff that, but probably lunge at us. We took a lot from him. And for once they SHOULD have an Alliance character stay mad at us. And not just magically forgive and trust us. It’s weird.

No one even has even an indifference to us right now. And it doesn’t seem likely. Writers need to get better at nuance.

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This makes no sense. I know it’s a longstanding joke. But Belves have been Horde since the very first expac. I think the only difference is people thought they’d be Alliance and still haven’t accepted it. Despite them never being that dedicated to the Alliance.

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I support taking this direction with the story; the faction conflict thing is for babies. There better be a quest where horde players are required to kiss worgen

Wouldnt be so sure about that i still have never sided with Saurfang and that even gets a toy. And i only helped calia once and that was just for the title. I hate calia i hate all non space goat and non Dwarven alliance. Im especially not helping my least favorite race in game get their home back screw the wolfs

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I think the everyone is magically friends is moreso for babies since it comes across like a Saturday morning cartoon plot.

There should be at least some friction and mistrust.

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Is Lillian not Horde? If Lillian says ‘the Forsaken are helping the Worgen’ would that make the decision any less valid?

The NPCs have had years according to the timeskip to hash out, cool down, and otherwise come to terms with the world as it’s become, it’s entirely reasonable that Genn, while upset that Sylvanas might yet live, doesn’t hold much of a grudge toward the Horde who pursued her with the same passion he had.

Sure, he just had lost his son and his city, no reason to hate the horde at all. And Lillian writing lately since shadowlands has been dogs%!* level. In the quest with Shandris in the emerald dream she is completely out of character.

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The writers have never experienced actual warfare. They’ve never watched their friend bleed out from his neck because of an enemy RPG shrapnel.

These people are soft-bellied babies writing war stories.

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Unless I see it, it’s just convenience and not good storytelling. You can’t just tell me we hashed it out in 3 years. Also, still doesn’t make me believe that absolutely everyone and everything is just golden now.

I’d at least be impressed if it’s all a trap for us. It’d feel more real and less kid story quality.

Think this would have been a good time for the Development team to have created two unique quests, one for each Faction. Forcing one faction to do a quest that has no benefit for them seems odd. I get the occasional small quest that could be done in a day but something that takes a whole patch needs to have a benefit for both sides.

Alliance should be reclaiming Gilneas while the Horde is working on repairing Undercity/Lorderon. Daily quests would reward resources needed for rebuilding while weekly quests would be working on liberating cities from opposing forces. Could almost make it some sort of faction race to see which side reaches the goal first.

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By Sylvanas’ hand, not the Horde’s.

Genn genuinely don’t hate the Horde. He’s suspicious towards a lot of Horde, but he doesn’t hate them.

In Before the Storm, Genn gets to meet Alonsus Faol. A very dear friend of his that died and then returned as Scourge, then turned independent. But still undead and to the larger views of Alliance folks, Forsaken.

You have no idea who Genn Greymane is if you don’t know that he doesn’t hate the Horde. Or the fact that when pressed on the matter, that he would’ve loved to be able to meet his son raised as a Forsaken. But yah’, angry daddy werewolf definitely can’t have any emotions, and definitely has to be angry and have the emotional expression level of a potato.

His son is lost, yes, to Sylvanas. Gilneas however is being restored and there have been literal years for him to cool off. We all would have loved to see Sylvanas get her very deserved comeuppance but eternal banishment to the Maw will just have to do for now.

Genn might be upset, but he’s not going to second-guess this joint operation since it carries the approval of the Alliance as a whole.

That is the same as say the horde will help regrow teldrassil

Individuals might hold grudges, but an individual grudge isn’t worthy of the attentions of the greater faction. If Genn wants to go rogue, he can, but he’ll face the full might of the Alliance, Horde, and possibly even Gilneas themselves to depose the ‘Mad King’.

Since that’s exceedingly unlikely since it would be the first time in a game where a race would be made unplayable, Genn might grumble and whine but he’ll accept it.

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We… Kinda did? What did you think we were in the Dream doing?

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I helped by doing quests just outside of Gilneas to fortify our attack. It’s not like we protested it at all.

Then why does he always growl at us?

This would be interesting. We should raise him and have him serve the Horde.

Better than being a door mat for those that wronged him.

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The PC’s motivations are mercurial. I ‘helped’ burn Teldrassil even though I hated it. It was pretty much the moment I quit playing Horde because it was so distasteful and out-of-character for my PC.

Do you not own a dog? If a dog’s sus of something, it gets a grr.

'Cause that went well the first time we tried that trick.

Genn can realize his son saw him leading a better Gilneas and try to live up to that standard instead of wallowing in his death.

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