All jokes aside, there is a big problem with this class. I know its fun to say “Wow about time that class got a nerf” or “They should just delete the class” or “Good”. Don’t get me wrong, I like the banter and I’m a fun joking guy, but I feel like the real gameplay issue here is being ignored. DH havoc class needs help…
I just did a raid last night and I was constantly doing the least damage on single target bosses, I am familiar with both specs and how to maximize dps and rotations, there is just simply a lack of power. I am 194 ilvl which is on the top end of geared players right now. Even with 10-15+ ilvl lead on most of the DPS I was almost always at the bottom. The dps spec on this class is pathetically weak, but good thing I just main tank for m+
It sounds really “memey” when people say DH need a buff, and trust me I actually do enjoy the banter people give the class, but this is actually disgusting if you witness it first hand. Only good thing havoc DH can do is cleave mobs, but at that point you might as well just go vengeance because all tanks have really good, and ucapped target aoe so you end up doing more damage. (can hit more than 5 at reduced dmg)
You are better off having 1 vengeance DH( their tank spec), 2 dps, 1 healer and 1 tank of whatever class in a 5 man dungeon run
vs
1 havoc DH (their DPS spec), 2 other dps, 1 healer and 1 tank of whatever class. What are your guys’ thoughts and experiences?
I went to level 51 on a DH as an alt for gathering, etc and it was painful to do. My main abilities were always greyed out probably need to relearn what they changed…
The reason it does not matter if Havoc has good DPS is because they are a token class brought for a 5% magic debuff, high movement mechanics a’la G’huun and darkness. nothing else
No, it’s true. I really tried leveling in Havoc, but it was… bad. I’m currently running Vengeance - which is great for Callings and WQs and Torghast - but I’m not a tank player and when I dive into dungeons and raids I’m going to have to switch to Havoc.
I get it. DHs were OP for a long time with regards to effort vs. rewards (meaning little effort, great rewards), but… where they are at now is just bad.
I’m hoping with Demonic build and the Chaos Theory legendary that it’ll fix a lot of the dmg and survivability issues, but it’s really sad that that’s what I need just to be viable.
The reason it does not matter if Havoc has good DPS is because they are a token class brought for a 5% magic debuff, high movement mechanics a’la G’huun and darkness. nothing else
People just take vengeance DH tanks, they don’t take havocs. World first Mythic will have a vengeance DH and no havoc DPS so they get the 5% magic buff.
The tank spec is actually really good right now, you do more damage than the dps spec, have 10x better survivability, a bit more mobility than being a DPS DH, and get groups way faster. But if you weren’t planning on tanking, DH isn’t good to level up unless something changes…
It’s insane that after what Havoc could pull off that a tank spec does more dps, feelsbad, maybe if I’m bored I’ll quest as Vengeance BUT
That’s the point that makes me rethink leveling anything that just has 1 dps option. I guess I was looking for something I can call a main, and enjoy but with Range always being in demand and all. I stopped.
Yeah, the tank spec is fine, you should never, ever go havoc. You do more damage as tank, have more utility on top of that with your aoe silences and stuns, and giga survivability. For demon hunters, their tank spec is their dps spec
I see nothing wrong with a class, that presses 1/4 the number of buttons as other classes, doing 1/4 the dps. They’ve been catered to since their inception and now they’re finally starting to get balanced.
