Short answer: Fun
Long Answer: Titan-forging back in legion gave solo players a reason to keep logging in and chasing something to get better and better loot. After that system was removed players that did not do group related content had less reasons to play after the main story line was done. The logical solution here is to add a new progression system that did not affect players outside of the targetted group. Delves is an expirmental answer to this problem. It is their hope that this will keep smaller group and solo player orientated players more involved and subscribed for longer.
-This is not an official response, nor supported by official data. Just my own logical assessment of the situation.
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New gimmick, or newer version of a past gimmick. Individual player path of progression. Nothing wrong with that overall. Prefer an open world path though myself. And seeing Delves as the developers new toy this expansion, Iâm not expecting anything for open world players except for a couple lame wqâs that we have now in the zones. If Delves work then great, if not they will end up being another abandoned feature like Mop scenarios, and BFA island scenarios, warfronts etc, etc. Bring on a Mop classic, and Legion classic Iâll be one happy camper.
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I guess the real issue is that I donât really know what youâre saying here. Delves and Torghast share a similar âshellâ but their functions and content are very different.
If you define âTorghastâ as âany single player, small-group content with a progression system,â then I suppose youâre right that Delves are like Torghast.
My hangup is that you seem to be referring to the concept as a bad thing. As âthis expansionâs AP,â or as an âidea they wonât let go of.â
Do you think they should let go of that idea? Tell me what you really feel here.
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They did. The player base is too toxic and too unpredictable to let them engage with regular players. Not only does their behavior ruin the game experience for everyone but also gives WoW a bad reputation.
The delves are the logical consequence without sacrificing the gogogo-players.
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Islands was fun, but I think the lack of gear rewards made them less useful. Rather people like it or not, gearing up and feeling yourself get stronger is an important part of the gaming dynamic. Players lose interest if they feel no progress was made, naturally this is a more generalization and there is outliers. Warfronts failed because people was able to afk in them and get rewards and this is against what Blizzard and much of the gaming community wants. Delves offer gear, and make it harder to get rewards without being active in some degree although I think a bot could do them easily.
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I could do with more Withered Training actually
What leveling I usually receive the bag of gold that gives around 40 to 50 gold, a piece of gear relevant to my level, about 25k XP, something different to do other than questing or doing dungeons while leveling up.
They are an end game progressive content for one to five players that rewards up to heroic level gear.
You may not like it, but itâs definitely enjoyable for a lot of people including myself.
Hopefully they keep it around permanently.
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Yeah there was always someone that would run off to edge of map, or in the mine to afk, but not really any different than that rando who would run off and hide during an AV bg or something. Believe it was an over exaggerated issue more than anything by people that just hated the fact they existed. If as many players were afking as claimed, then there would have been no way to ever complete them. Biggest prob was that they were a no threat of losing issue. Boss attacking your base more than once, or being attacked by the bosses forces more would have made them better.
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Iâm hoping the rewards get better, because yeah right now theyâre pointless.
They wonât be high end. There is a quote somewhere about how high. I want to say it was something like Around heroic raid tier.
Edit: A quick google found this title on reddit. You can do further research yourself from there.
Ion at Blizzcon: Delves will offer M+ 10-15 quality gear / Heroic Raid Quality Gear.
This game imo needs more of what this expansions pre launch event had only have them up as a weekly or one up daily in a zone. Put some of the world back into the game, instead of constantly trying to funnel players into instances. Was nothing better than seeing a bunch of people out and about in the open world killing memories of Hogger, Stiches, and Hakkar, then have Ragnaros, Lich king whatever final boss spawn and have to kill them.
I agree and disagree at the same time. I on a personal level found the pre-expansion event to be somewhat boring. I decided to just get my weapon and then skip it. Guess iâm not a fan of the murder ball. I do like that occasionally people would talk in global though, Iâm always up for actual socialization. But visual clutter, is just clutter to me.
I did the first one and it was fun. Thatâs reason enough for me.
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It is meant for several things:
- An alternative to mythic + speed running.
- Something for solo players to progress in.
- Something players can play at any time.
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I guess I was meaning having events similar in the open world. Doesnât necessarily have to be about downing bosses, even though this game we are all murder hobos the biggest part of the time lol. Said it in other threads I wonât be a bit surprised if this xpac turns out just like WOD only without the garrison this go around.
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People will only do em for achievements.
Yeah I donât even know if I will go that far lol.
Did them once, and a few more to try and figure out what the point of them is.
So far, itâs entirely pointless. I donât know why they would release them in this state. Very very bad first impression of them.
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They just arenât for me. They seem boring and I hate the little gimmicky mechanics.
Delves are so bad they encouraged me to start running 5 mans again, so thatâs something
Of all of these systems weâve gotten - my favorite were MoP Scenarios - but Iâd rather have Island Expeditions over Delves or Torghast