i agree. i always play 2 accounts. like always. to give myself additional chances on rare drops for mounts / pets / toys etc… my renowns with each faction was like 12 / 15 / 14 and was 17 with threads. i had no clue like many others that might of been dual boxing or playing with their kid that we were getting bonus rep.
but to elaborate from what i found out later, rwf players were methodically doing it purposefully because at renowned 25 you unlock heroic crests.
so what did blizzard do? banned each and every single player who benefited from a single rep no matter your renowned. pathetic. still pissed.
Blizz doesn’t realize the debuff they have. Any muck up is amplified and keeps resetting the timer on the debuff. They need to have a streak of wins to remove it or they will crash this expac hard. This delve thing is just one small example of how huge the backlash is.
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Nah there busted sorry to say whoever says skill issue or there fine is a troll. there is 0 reason white non elites should be hitting for 2mil and some areas 5mil+ not even bosses or elites should do this.
oh lets not discuss the 2mil dots or the fact now mobs have 30mil + solo, and 120+ in a 3man.
Dont forget the mobs that get CCed and still are casting through a CC 1 taping even tanks unless your a warrior which btw is bugged and ignore pain is overpowered. its making any content a joke.
Hell just did a mythic Wake with a tank pulling 4+ packs and just spamming ignore pain and not taking a single amount of damage.
Dude coming in here on warrior saying its fine is just abusing ignore pain so of course you wont see what anyone else see’s
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still waiting for you to stream your gameplay of you being big boss man gamer chad easily clearing the t8 and t11 with the bad scaling.
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He big man play very good. Win all
Edit: i need to go to bed
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The recent hot fix completely borked the scaling even worse than it already is. They said they decreased the damage done by mobs in groups but they actually increased it by a large amount.
The extra zekvir mob is a boss mob surrounded by like 6-8 other mobs that hit like trucks.
Delves are pretty much dead until the actually fix them.
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Delve 8’s are still doable. but it is not reasonable in the slightest for auto attacks to be doing the bulk of the damage in these things.
The mechanics dont matter, the auto damage deos
They’re fun for me.
Maybe you shouldn’t have been abusing a scaling bug.
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I don’t understand the hate towards Delves. They ARENT required. The people complaining about them being boring are the same people who will run the same 8 dungeons hundreds of times for months with very little real variability.
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You wont ever get it because there is no bad scaling, improve your skill instead.
TWW is garbage in general so of course the delves are too.
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oh so you make big claims but cant back it up. gotcha
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Torghast was miles better.
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Yeah, i havent taken any damage from them by just letting brann tank.
See, you’re saying ‘bad scaling’ but the scaling isn’t the problem.
The problem is you’re trying to jump into content that has a much higher ilvl than you can reasonably attain at this stage in the season.
T8+ Delves require ilvl 603+ to complete. That’s a high bar to clear in the first week of the season. I doubt the majority of players have reached that ilvl seeing as M0 dungeons, the hardest dungeons currently available, don’t drop even close to that ilvl of gear. You won’t start seeing that until folks start to clear M+ level 5 and you can’t start doing those until September 17th.
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I don’t think that I’ve seen a more stupid take on this subject yet.
Yeah, I don’t know what people are going on about but T4 was solid very difficult at my 570.
I did the hollowfall void circles one. I had to wait for Brann To toss out his three minute cool down, emergency kit on quite a few occasions
I didn’t die. But we’re back at Torghast again with people doing layer 12 on launch. It’s supposed to be hard. Mobs probably do hit with millions of damage 
And much like Torghast and Visions, many classes (like mine) struggle with fewer interrupts and self heals.
It’s still fun, but I don’t play any game by choosing ultra doom violence dark souls Far Cry 1 max difficulty. That just sounds terrible. But you do you.
4 is doable at 470. 5 probably not. Regardless of what the recommended ilvl states.
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Easy solo content should never provide comparable gear to heroic and M+.
These ppl want a trophy for just participating in the game. The cool stuff should be reserved for people who can outperform. Skill should always result in better stuff. Everyone should get good stuff sure if they accomplish the content but there need to be some separating boundaries.
Our guild group 5 manned the abom delve and waxfaxe. We got clapped cuz we were being lazy and didn’t realize the changes. We locked in and accomplished it easy after resetting it. Only our mage died, and only once at the tail end of the abom fights; and hes literally brand new. Even with it supposedly overtuned.
My husband and I do them duo and win. It’s not easy, but it is doable. People are just bad at the game.
Edit: i was a bit mean i think
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Whats the big claim? That I can clear a t8? Skill issues much?
Im glad i decided to main pally because i can go in as herald ret and just focus on keeping myself alive while bran kills things.
Some are overtuned. Like the last boss of earthcrawl you need to interrupt both things he casts because they will both truck you. So you either need a 2nd way to stop or you need to hope brann will interrupt the thing you aren’t.
And that one in hallowfall the name escapes me, but it’s full of those cultists. Everything hits like a truck in that one.
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