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It’s a video game.

I’m not going to argue that balancing couldn’t be way better but there are other aspects that you have to consider.

One being fight mechanics. Even if they made all classes/specs equal on a patchwork fight, it all goes out the window when you start adding mechanics. There is no way to balance this.

Another part is balancing for player skill. Again, your example is extreme and concerning but if you look at the median fire mage DPS (110K) vs the max (148K) there is a huge range of potential.

Do you reduce the median DPS so the max won’t be so high? That is almost the same as difference your example Sub Rogue Vs Mage max example.

Again, I agree…balancing could be better, but I think it would be harder than it seems.

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Ion said he and the team have it right this time and everything will be balanced come launch. What’s that? he said the same thing about things in BFA? don’t worry about that. They definitely have it down this time. For reals. Would Ion lie?

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Yeah, that’s why balance is so important. So people can do and play whatever they want without needing to feel oppressed by some meta.

If everything is even within 10% of one another-- no one should take the meta seriously. That’s one reason why FFXIV doesn’t seriously adhere to any strict meta right now, because even our “worst DPS” played right can easily wipe the floor with the best dps.

Ultimately I think that yeah perfect balance is impossible.

But getting things more in line I do think is achievable.

Like I genuinely am confident that the blizzard balance team has the skills necessary to alleviate a nearly 50% DPS difference between sub and fire mage.

Like the problem is there are glaring issues. But they seem to just be shuffled under the rug or ignored. I hardly think that it would be unfair to want some of these specs on the lower end to get a little potency buff.

Sadly… yeah… warcraft logs exposes the non-truths in this sadly

I’m ignoring everything that happens in Beta and take it as it is when it goes live. I am a Feral, I have been since Vanilla, that isn’t changing, whether I am on the top or the bottom I’m not bothered in the slightest. This kitty is playing regardless of the outcome.

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Same for me, I will play WW monk regardless of where they stack on the meters.

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I’ve been playing memeWalker for 5 years and don’t plan on stopping. That still doesn’t stop me from calling out the garbage that continues to happen with Healing balance.

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Yet you still see all those bottom specs do great in mythic too and killing bosses while being near the top, unless we pretend they only play with world first fire mages in their raids but do go on with those utterly unrealistic scenarios

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GO Kitties!! I salute this choice and will never spec into boomchicken. Of course my co-mains are a ret pally and demo lock, so I have more than the normal touch of Masochism. :see_no_evil::speak_no_evil::hear_no_evil:

Yeah, that is why they do balance during beta.

What are you suggesting, that Blizzard should delay the expansion launch so they have time to fix things like this? Nonsense, they would never take such a radical step as that…

LOOK AT THE OP DEMON HUNTER!!! how is that even possible!!! SOOOOO OPPPPPPPPPP!!! Nerf nerf nerf themmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!! OMG