Delete Calia Please

God Calia is so 1% thank you for helping me work through why I dislike her so much. She just drips privilege doesn’t she? She doesn’t get it. She didn’t suffer. She wasn’t there. Sylvanas did.

The Forsaken, out of all factions, are distinct because of their suffering and their lives as outcasts. Calia didn’t have that. And she’s the SISTER of the DUDE THAT DID IT TO THEM.

It’s just this awful blend of privilege, nepotism, monarchy, wealth, condescension and lack of understanding that makes her horrible in every way. It’s outrageous and unfair.

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Kinda like the boy king who inherited his fathers thrown and apperently leadership over the rest of the alliance because hes the kings son.

I’d rather Alliance got LF forsaken and Calia and we get Lilian and the forsaken plus Dark Rangers. No need to ruin the forsaken even more by giving us some LF :poop: . Or just have her stay in the middle and stay useless and not wanted. Forsaken do not want her or her light.

LF forsaken = ruined forsaken.

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Things have been resolved if you read. :man_shrugging:t3:

Continue complaining.

It’s like trump saying he knows how people feel who had the corona virus. No he don’t. Those other people who had it didn’t have a full team of 10+Drs on standby just for them when they got it.

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I mean, I get your grief but Stormwind and the human kingdom is a monarchy. That’s how those work.

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Yeah also in like every other fairy tale fantasy land.

calia is fine

Thats how it works with calia too…shes hier to lorderans thrown

I don’t want Alliance to get LF Forsaken. Why should they have that?

The only way this would please me is if Bellular is right and the next expansion dives into how The Light can be evil and tyrannical. But still, not fair.

I like Calia, and we all know Blizz is just setting up ‘that’ cutscene.

YA know, with Calia and Uther and Arthas.

The story writes itself.

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*throne

And no. Lordaeron was seized by Sylvanas and The Horde. It’s no longer a hereditary monarchy. It does not belong to the Menethils anymore.

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I am glad I am not the only one that feels this way.

On a scale, those that like her for whatever reason that they give. Doesn’t matter, also I am pretty confident will continue to play and enjoy this game if someone nuked Calia into oblivion.

Conversely, her existence to that that do not like her see her as a blight on the story. I’m certain that if she continues to exist will result in real negative feelings by those players that will be impactful.

She is a ‘hold my beer’ character concocted cuz something thought they would be creative. Blizz stop ruining the story that millions of players loved!

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I want her as the Forsaken leader just because you necrod a 3 month old thread to complain

Mind your place, blueberry traitor.

I don’t want LF Forsaken as a potential allied race at all, but if we did get them I think I’d dislike them less as an Alliance race than a Horde one?

It might kinda work as just another reason for the Forsaken to resent the Alliance: the Alliance could decide to “accept” the undead, but only the nice lightforged version, which would a) make some sense because the Alliance likes The Light and b) be insult to injury for the rest of the undead who are still outcasts (either because old Forsaken can’t be retroactively lightforged, or because they don’t want to leave the new lives they’ve built for their old families who came around way too late).

But yeah I’d rather have no LF Forsaken, Calia or otherwise. But since Calia’s here, I’d love for the Alliance to take her and keep her away from the Forsaken.

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Ah yeah I get you. If it has to happen, give them to Alliance. That does not work for the Horde.

I think this could potentially be a good redemption cycle for the Forsaken either way, but like you said especially if LF undead go to Horde. We’re starting to see more and more how dangerous and oppressive the light is and how tyrannical and Machiavellian it’s wielders can become. Having the LF undead invade and forcefully convert Forsaken and a subsequent Forsaken uprising could be great.

OR if they do go to Alliance, what about a LF undead occupation of Lordaeron? Since the Forsaken must be punished and can’t be trusted, LF undead Alliance troops are sent to keep watch over them and make sure they’re not up to anything, resulting in oppression and injustices against the Forsaken. Again, then we have a subsequent uprising.

I could see them taking the story in this direction, but I guess it’s gotta get worse before it gets better.

It’s not too late for Sylvanas to just apologize and come back. Everyone needs a bit of me time.

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Oh I like those ideas, the “light can be dangerous and corrupting” angle could work. If Calia herself became an oppressive leader, it would actually be pretty satisfying to have an uprising.

I guess the outcome I really don’t want is for LF to force a simplistic split in the Forsaken, where Blizzard just uses it as a way to have “good” Forsaken (who choose to be redeemed) and “bad” Forsaken (who don’t, because…some players like to be the villain).

I don’t want to be evil for no reason. I like how the Forsaken are sketchy, but have a rationale for being that way. They’re trying to make the most of a literal nightmare in a world that hated (and mostly still hates) them, and sometimes they’re willing to be gross or horrible to accomplish that. If they suddenly had full redemption just sitting there for free, there wouldn’t really be a rationale anymore.

Maybe I should have more faith in Blizzard, since like you said they’ve sorta been foreshadowing the light being not necessarily all-good. I’ve just been so bleh about the Forsaken story since BFA.

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Haha

She’s going to apologize for killing Saurfang and it will be all good?