Defending Thunder Bluff from Sylvanas tyranny

What duplicity? We are not working with the Horde in any official capacity and as far as I’m concerned defeating Sylvanas is both the rebel and the Alliance goal.

Pretty sure they’re just going have Sylvanas betray the ever loving crap out of the loyalists at some point (hell, pretty sure she’s going to betray Nathanos in some major way at some point too).

Also, anyone still weirded out by just how many BE avatars seem to revel in Sylvie (despite the fact that she has always been a pretty horrific representative for not just the Horde; but also the Forsaken)? It sort of comes off as … “we don’t actually like the Horde; or the Forsaken; or hell even our own BE racial lore … we just like the Banshee Queen”.

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Oh no! The shadow in my heart.

Sylvanas has compromised me!

:fire: :evergreen_tree:

Sylvanas is the new Gul’dan. But for Elves instead of Orcs.

She’s a malevolent force they gather around that has no affection for them beyond as a means to her ascension for serving higher powers.

At least Arthas was open in his contempt.

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I’m sorry you’re absolutely wrong in this. War in and of itself is a horrible and chaotic scenario to find ones self in that is the whole reason why people made rules to fighting so that the desturction caused by war war could be fixed without leaving a nation in utter ruins. Raising a dead man and torturing him into a sleeper agent is sick beyond imagining. Teld was an example of total war and while horrible it is well within the scope of what has been witnessed by humanity before. Slyvanas forcing undeath upon someone for the sole purpose of murdering their living family members may seem like a smaller crime but it sets the tone for crimes of such an abominatiable nature. It makes the horde no better than the scourge and that’s disturbing. Baine wasn’t really involved with the war of the thorns and while it may have been horrifying news it was not the time to make a stand that would just lead in his arrest and death

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Yup … still pretty much convinced that she’s the laughing Shepherd from Ogmot’s journal leading her blind sheep off the cliff. Hell, pretty sure Heyla is the crows that are growing fat upon sheep flesh. It would actually make A LOT of Sylvie’s tactics and prioritize make a whole lot more sense if she was under a similar bargain with Heyla as the Horde PC is with good ol’ Bwon right now.

Her behavior in this war doesn’t scream of a person trying to WIN a war; just keep one escalated and prolonged as long as possible. If Bwon has taught us anything its that a Death Entities’ power grows in proportion to the amount of souls they have dominion over; AND that they can “bless” individuals with the ability to send souls to them (if they are responsible for those soul’s deaths). So … its all about the Death Toll! Sylvies gotta fill that quest bar before the Horde turns on her.

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Well the story seems to be heading in the direction of Jaina leading an Alliance force to defend Thunder Bluff along with Thrall and Co. Anduin knows about it and may provide forces to help. He did send help to save Baine after all. Sounds official enough.

Yes it is. But Alliance forces using the Thunder Bluff defense as an opportunity to strike elsewhere against the Horde would be a betrayal of this cooperation.

My original point was mostly in jest. It’s more likely we will see Sylvanas unleash her evil plans while our eyes are focused on defending Thunder Bluff.

She’s the local girl that made it big. And her being the big Horde boss does have the advantage of keeping her away.

The Windrunner girls have always been a bit on the freaky throwback side.

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We are not “cooperating” at least not yet in any official capacity. Maybe Anduin and Jaina will force cooperation but even if that was the case, we could “cooperate” but attacking Sylvanas while Thunderbluff tries to lure a good chunk of Slyvanas loyalist to attack it.

Now your just being silly with that comment, “We just like the Banshee Queen”?
Every race has a sort of prospective towards how everything turned out. For us BE’s, the Forsaken helped us and supported us into the Horde. Since then, we’ve had to work very hard to get to the position we are at. If it wasn’t Sylvanas, we would be struggling and probs become extinct.

Like my previous comment on us being champions of the Horde, we have made sure that we are reliable to complete most tasks deemed impossible to complete and our warchief, who ever it is, will use us.

Im not blindly following her but Im very loyal to her as my Warchief.

Emphasis on the “use us” part.

Considering her track record of “use” of others, not sure its the best place to be.

I half hope that when it come to protecting Thunderbluff the Alliance will promises to Flank Sylvannas forces. However Anduin chooses Genn to lead the forces and he instead pulls the Alliance forces back leading to the defeat of the Tauren and instead attacks Crossroads butchering the Horde there along with the Night elf forces.

Again, we’re not an ordinary soldier. Our PC is like the special forces in RL. Not the best analogy but thats the point im trying to make. We are doing “quests” that are almost impossible complete.

Doesn’t matter. Sylvanas is a control freak who has an existential fear of her own afterlife. Her placing her fate in others hands is not one of choice, it is one of necessity. Just like when she was willing to throw herself off of ICC and doom her “Mongrel Race of Rotten Corpses” to extinction; the MOMENT Sylvanas finds that our usefulness has run its course (or that we have better value as a sacrifice than a “special forces agent”) … she will abandon us.

If she found a way out of worrying about her afterlife (that doesn’t enslave her outright), she’d take it … even if it comes at the expense of the Horde and Forsaken.

Brings up Nazjatar cinematic again and watches ships go over the side and down into Aszhara’s realm

Hmm…:thinking:

Those dumb Windrunners.

Why do they only get with Human men? Why not a nice Tauren or something?

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