You could help them build their score and their keys instead of being a bad friend.
You donât need to pay for carries and if you are interested in getting better I wouldnât recommend that anyway (just donât tell that to my buyers lol
Just start with a m0 and that will give you a keystone. You can then do small keys as you practice and get gear. We all start with 0 experience and score so of you want to you can work your way up too.
Why not just make an alt to play with friends?
Thank you very much Aveldruid. I really appreciate your help!
I wouldnât bring a green geared friend to a mythic dungeon unless we were explicitly running it to carry them.
Not at all, unless you are there to carry, youâre not going to bring a heroic dungeon geared player to a mythic dungeon or raid.
Causes a lot of problems, otherwise.
I have geared many friends. I carry them through 10s. That being said⊠I am absolutely not going to bring them into a 17 or an 18 when theyâre like 410, have no essences, and are only just relearning their class
@OP. Carry your friend through the highest content you can comfortably carry them through until they are geared/prepped enough to start pushing whatever it is you are pushing.
That being said⊠why would you use RIO for your friend? You know if theyâre good or not and you know that they are undergeared. It is unnecessary.
Itâs a catch-22. Either you can hard carry them, or you canât and youâre no better than they are.
Itâs a double edged sword.
Run your friend - at the cost of others time and ratings.
Bail on your friend - at the cost of the friendship
Your friend should not want you to hurt others but on the flip side itâs ok for your friends to ask for your help.
I would say you would need to make sure everyone on that key knew what was happening and was ok with it before inviting your friend. But help your friends out for sure whenever you can.
(Itâs safe now in PL, with ML a lot of people got hurt badly by gearing âotherâ peopleâs friends.)
Dear god we agree on something.
On the plus side I am sure you wonât have to worry about having RL friends for too long, so it is a self correcting issue.
So you would stop being friends with someone because they didnât take you to keys that you are no where near prepared for and expect to be carried?
Thereâs a bit more nuance to this subject then i think most people are willing to give it. Iâve had friends who wanted to run higher level keys 15+. But they donât have the exp from doing the dungeons to justify taking them in and possibly breaking the key and taking hours to complete. It wouldnât be fun for anyone.
Personally iâve never been a fan of RIO, GS, or any other variety of 3rd party exclusionary addons. If someone already has the achievements or the IL to do the content. Iâd be fine with inviting them for content appropriate for their exp and gear.
That being said it really comes down to how good at the game your friends are and what their gear is like. If they just want to have some fun and youâre fine with taking them with you. Just do some 5 or lower keys and gear them out. Work them up the ladder to 10âs and stuff so they understand what they should be doing and what skips need to be done.
And in the occurrence that theyâre, well you know⊠Really bad at the game. You just have to level with them and explain that they just arenât up to the task of the higher level content. If they really are your friend, theyâll understand and not try to force you to carry them through difficult content.
If youâre declining them solely on that basis, then yes, I think itâd be a jerk move. If they just came back and have low gearing, then help explain to them constructively what they can do to catch up for gear. Also, for things like normal Mythic, if you are comfortable as a group doing it, go for it.
R-IO is a tool, but not an excuse to act like one.
Iâd do regular mythic runs and then do one M+ that I know they could get through while carrying them. If theyâre my RL friends Iâd actually be doing as much as I can because theyâre the ones I want to play with.
You really gonna call out profiles when you at +9. LOL
Youâre in over your head kid. Find a corner, and stay in it.
I donât know about you, but I LIKE helping my friends, itâs kind of what friends do. When your âfriendsâ need help moving do you say, âsorry Iâm not gonna carry you through your move. You need to get a few moves under your belt before Iâll help you.â
I donât know the whole story but you seem like the kind of friend I wouldnât want.
This is a great line!! Iâm so stealing it!
Itâs more like âhey dude can you move my furniture for me while I carry the kitchen utensilsâ
New players do not being in keys of any significant kind. The op is doing mostly 16-17s so I assume that is the key groups he is talking about.
Could/should he help his mates in m0-5 yea probably but that doesnât look like what they are asking for.
Figured the OP was being satirical and pointing out the silliness of RIO obsession, no?