Declined, Declined, Declined 2 hour straight in LFG

[Annastasi-proudmoore]

@Ozzie-malganis

The dude just wants to play the game. Whack some monsters. Not play The Sims: Dungeon Maker social game.

then an MMO in which he wants to participate in group activity sounds like the wrong game for him.

[Seaisleice-andorhal]

Only in Retail WoW. Actually in Real life I’m quite happy. WoW just grinds my gears and I’m mad I bought a 6 month sub thinking the game was fun =/

Classic is fun though but that’s probably because I’m playing with a real life friend.

[Telumia-scarlet-crusade (Telumia)]

who hates it? most people i play with enjoy it.

[Annastasi-proudmoore]

@Seaisleice-andorhal

content that a majority of people hate

source? Did you poll your 10 friends and extrapolate that to the entire playerbase?

The number of keys run every week indicate that the majority of people who participate in m+ do not, in fact, hate it.

but I’d love to see your data that proves otherwise.

[Seaisleice-andorhal]

Well if you stepped outside your friend group and looked at the overall MMORPG market you’d find there’s a lot of people who hate what WoW Retail is.

[Annastasi-proudmoore]

so what? I can find a lot of people who hate anything. Pick a thing. there are people who hate it.

That doesn’t mean the thing some people hate isn’t wildly popular with others.

Again, if you’re going to claim that the majority hate m+, back it up. surely you have data on that?

[Dapler-area-52]

@Annastasi-proudmoore

surely you have data on that?

No, and don’t call him Shirley.

[Candee-azuresong]

If you want to play the game and have fun, do heroics, M0, M+5 or M+10. Not everybody has to be doing M+15s. Some content is meant to be hard and require a lot of experience, gear, and skill.

If you’re getting declined, you probably don’t have enough experience or gear. Maybe they checked your logs and decided that you didn’t have enough skill.

Either way, it sounds to me like you’re expecting that strangers should pick you out of the 100+ people (not even joking) who signed up for their 15 key. Why would they do that? Why would you do a better job than that 1.9k io Fire Mage with lots of 95+ percentile logs?

[Ozzie-malganis]

Nah actually YOU’RE playing the wrong game. WoW is literally set up as a quasi-lobby based action RPG with barebones social tools. He’s playing exactly the right whack-and-loot game for it. Just with a poor LFG system.

[Seaisleice-andorhal]

WoW’s LFG system is similar to those who refused to give up their beepers. Dude. It’s 2021. If you’re going to call M+ competitive then make a competitive matchmaking system. Quit half-assing it.

[Dapler-area-52]

You don’t have to use the LFG system. A que system in m+ would be need it’s own difficulty level and scaling. There’s a reason why LFR is so easy.

[Telumia-scarlet-crusade (Telumia)]

I played ESO…played GW2…I went to the field after a month for each and never played either again. You aren’t even playing true classic which required 2-3hrs of sitting in General and trade looking for a group that would usually dissolve before completion.

[Shmorg-kul-tiras (Shmorg)]

@Donnally-sargeras

**** your about to lose another sub!!! FIX IT NOW!!

It’s a fotm issue. Reroll a better built class. Blizz aint going do the work even when the evidence proves how skewed classes are.

[Sarama-firetree]

@Seaisleice-andorhal

if they do happen your gameplay isn’t affected because you can continue to play at the same level

Unless they’re giving an M+LFG queue buff like determination, they’re have to nerf the actual dungeons, which does affect everyone.

If they do make it a buff for only M+LFG, it shouldn’t reward the same level of loot anymore, which will turn a lot of people off from it.

@Seaisleice-andorhal

the fear more players will gravitate toward an automatic queue shrinking LFG’s demand

This is actually a win for the dedicated premade crowd as it pulls a lot of people out and leaves the ones who are comfortable and generally qualified for what they’re applying for.

[Seaisleice-andorhal]

I played GW2 for the better part of 2 years. I loved it sPvP was so much fun. WvWvW was a blast too because of the guild I was in.

I think I’m gonna head back. ESO was also a lot of fun because the gameplay was way more creative and not as restrictive. Plus with those 2 games the lack of 4 full hotbars of buttons is good.

So far in Classic I have been having a good fun time too because I’m a tank there so grouping isn’t hard to find but soloing and duo questing is fun too it’s not like hey I logged on–oh wow I’m max level now; Guess I have to go do M+!

[Sarama-firetree]

@Annastasi-proudmoore

Pick a thing

Chicken tendies.

[Dapler-area-52]

A que system with M+ would have to be gutted for a randomly generated team to clear it. There’s just too many considerations with affixes and group comp.

[Seaisleice-andorhal]

@Sarama-firetree

If they do make it a buff for only M+LFG, it shouldn’t reward the same level of loot anymore, which will turn a lot of people off from it.

I mean reduced valor points isn’t terrible. If that’s the punishment -sign me up.

[Sinxdx-illidan]

If you need to be invited to groups to raise your IO score, and you need to raise your IO score to get into groups…

[Annastasi-proudmoore]

@Sarama-firetree

Chicken tendies.

HOW DARE YOU I AM VEGAN

(not really but i instantly found people - a lot of them - who hate it)