Sharding will ensure I don't play the game. Defeats the ENTIRE concept of community on a server and server identity.
shard it we wont pay.
f the senate.
f the senate.
I won't play with sharding. I'm likely not going to play anyway with a shared sub. No way do I want to deal with BFA trolls invading Classic.
Keep fighting
11/04/2018 09:27 PMPosted by OogaThere's going to be sharding at first, then they're going to stop using it. If you refuse to play because you really wanted some sort of chaotic, laggy opening with login queues then you'll just end up two weeks behind, or miss out completely. Either way, a lot of people will play and have a lot of fun. If it doesn't include you, that's your choice.
Hey look at this guy ^ "people will still play", yeah who? Morons? Lol
#NotMyBlizzard #NoSharding
Ummm, you don't speak for me. Sharding to help stability during launch will help Classic be a greater success because people won't ragequit and never come back.
YES SHARDING IN STARTING AREAS AT LAUNCH.
NO QUEUES.
NO FIGHTING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE FOR QUEST MOBS.
Thanks Blizzard.
NO QUEUES.
NO FIGHTING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE FOR QUEST MOBS.
Thanks Blizzard.
11/05/2018 05:53 AMPosted by Paulywally11/04/2018 09:27 PMPosted by OogaThere's going to be sharding at first, then they're going to stop using it. If you refuse to play because you really wanted some sort of chaotic, laggy opening with login queues then you'll just end up two weeks behind, or miss out completely. Either way, a lot of people will play and have a lot of fun. If it doesn't include you, that's your choice.
Hey look at this guy ^ "people will still play", yeah who? Morons? Lol
#NotMyBlizzard #NoSharding
I didn't know Mike from Can't Hardly Wait was a WoW player. How have things been since Amanda left you?
Hey smary guy, what happens when raids on cities happen? what happens when people move out of the starting zones?11/04/2018 09:27 PMPosted by OogaThere's going to be sharding at first, then they're going to stop using it. If you refuse to play because you really wanted some sort of chaotic, laggy opening with login queues then you'll just end up two weeks behind, or miss out completely. Either way, a lot of people will play and have a lot of fun. If it doesn't include you, that's your choice.
People for sharding seem to lack a lot of critical thinking
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769589002
11/05/2018 06:10 AMPosted by AzerothinianYES SHARDING IN STARTING AREAS AT LAUNCH.
NO QUEUES.
NO FIGHTING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE FOR QUEST MOBS.
Thanks Blizzard.
Play a single player game then. If you're going to cry about having to share the world with other players, an MMO isn't for you
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769589002
11/05/2018 06:19 AMPosted by GreenemprahPlay a single player game then. If you're going to cry about having to share the world with other players, an MMO isn't for you
If your definition of having fun is ruining other players' fun, then an MMO isn't for you. Play a single player game.
Also, your walls of text contain nothing relevant to WoW being fun. Have a nice day.
I'm done. I won't be back to post here or even think about Classic again.
When Blizzard announced they would be releasing "Classic," warts and all, I felt a little sorry for all the Vanilla fans getting excited. I told my guild on the private Vanilla server I was playing on that I wasn't much interested in it. And when they asked me why not, it will be made by Blizzard! I said "Exactly. It will be made by Blizzard."
I'm hard pressed to think of anything they've done right in the last decade. They've lied, scammed, shown contempt for their players, penny pinched to the point of butchering their game, and shown zero innovation or passion.
If there is a problem or a potential problem, they will think of the stupidest thing they can and do that. Maybe it's cheaper. Maybe it's easier. Personally I don't really care.
You can go back to the beginning of this forum and read my posts about my lack of enthusiasm. I said then and I say now that if Blizzard is doing this they will find a way to screw it up. It's what they do. It's what they're known for.
Sharding shouldn't even be considered for this project. I don't know anyone except BFA trolls who wouldn't rather deal with a queue. The very idea of sharding in Vanilla is ludicrous and it shows me how "faithful" they are to recreating an authentic Vanilla WoW. Which is not at all. That they even thought of it tells me to walk away and never look back.
If you're under the impression that it's temporary or that's the end of their stupidity, you're wrong. And I feel extra bad for you. They won't ever merge servers (hello CRZ), they'll change classes, they'll add QOL features and they'll do whatever they can to keep whatever shred of current players there are playing. That's why it's a bundled sub.
I'm sorry for those of you that still have faith in this company. I truly am. I'm sorry for those of you that believe Blizzard cares about its players or that they'll keep their promises. They don't and they won't.
I feel really, really bad for those of you saying "Hey, it's just temporary and in the starting areas," almost like you think it's super necessary and don't know any better. Whatever Blizzard feeds you I guess.
At any rate, I'm not disappointed because like I said, I expected these sort of things to happen.
Peace.
When Blizzard announced they would be releasing "Classic," warts and all, I felt a little sorry for all the Vanilla fans getting excited. I told my guild on the private Vanilla server I was playing on that I wasn't much interested in it. And when they asked me why not, it will be made by Blizzard! I said "Exactly. It will be made by Blizzard."
I'm hard pressed to think of anything they've done right in the last decade. They've lied, scammed, shown contempt for their players, penny pinched to the point of butchering their game, and shown zero innovation or passion.
If there is a problem or a potential problem, they will think of the stupidest thing they can and do that. Maybe it's cheaper. Maybe it's easier. Personally I don't really care.
You can go back to the beginning of this forum and read my posts about my lack of enthusiasm. I said then and I say now that if Blizzard is doing this they will find a way to screw it up. It's what they do. It's what they're known for.
Sharding shouldn't even be considered for this project. I don't know anyone except BFA trolls who wouldn't rather deal with a queue. The very idea of sharding in Vanilla is ludicrous and it shows me how "faithful" they are to recreating an authentic Vanilla WoW. Which is not at all. That they even thought of it tells me to walk away and never look back.
If you're under the impression that it's temporary or that's the end of their stupidity, you're wrong. And I feel extra bad for you. They won't ever merge servers (hello CRZ), they'll change classes, they'll add QOL features and they'll do whatever they can to keep whatever shred of current players there are playing. That's why it's a bundled sub.
I'm sorry for those of you that still have faith in this company. I truly am. I'm sorry for those of you that believe Blizzard cares about its players or that they'll keep their promises. They don't and they won't.
I feel really, really bad for those of you saying "Hey, it's just temporary and in the starting areas," almost like you think it's super necessary and don't know any better. Whatever Blizzard feeds you I guess.
At any rate, I'm not disappointed because like I said, I expected these sort of things to happen.
Peace.
11/04/2018 09:33 PMPosted by Zaigo11/04/2018 09:31 PMPosted by Trevalondont care if its in or not, doesn't effect anything that is worth getting worked up over.
It does effect everything.
I am sorry, but you are ignorant if you think not.
#nosharding
Drama queens. The game will be better off without you.
11/05/2018 05:53 AMPosted by Paulywally11/04/2018 09:27 PMPosted by OogaThere's going to be sharding at first, then they're going to stop using it. If you refuse to play because you really wanted some sort of chaotic, laggy opening with login queues then you'll just end up two weeks behind, or miss out completely. Either way, a lot of people will play and have a lot of fun. If it doesn't include you, that's your choice.
Hey look at this guy ^ "people will still play", yeah who? Morons? Lol
#NotMyBlizzard #NoSharding
other way around. the morons won't be playing. go on other sites that talk about it. you are the literal definition of loud minority
You aint looking like the vast mayority to me just now lol, no changers can just move along and get back to their private servers.
There is a severe lack of understanding from people who support sharding.
They are all 3/8 LFR.
They are all SJW scrubs.
Blizzard, the choice is clear.
They are all 3/8 LFR.
They are all SJW scrubs.
Blizzard, the choice is clear.
11/05/2018 08:21 AMPosted by ZaigoThere is a severe lack of understanding from people who support sharding.
They are all 3/8 LFR.
They are all SJW scrubs.
Blizzard, the choice is clear.
"Everyone I disagree with is a scrub and an SJW! Listen to me reeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
Seriously, this character is also 3 in LFR, want to jump at it as well?
In the end, if it goes through, I hope a lot of people who say they won't play show with their wallets instead of running their mouths on here, oh wait, unless they switch forums over to having a subscription when Classic drops then all the private server fanatics* won't get a say anymore.
*shrug* There are ways to voice your concerns without insulting everyone just because they disagree with you. Which, funny enough, is what the SJWs do, not the anti-SJWs.
* = People who are just looking for a reason not to get off their private servers.
I've said it before I'll say it again but adding sharding you set a precedent for them to use it as a crutch when ever they feel the servers are under stress! Well guess what? They always are, that's the very nature of vanilla, WPVP, server events, community events. People fighting in Hillsbrad, you name it. As someone else pointed out they said starting zones, not areas, that means more than likely durotar and such. What do you think they will do when that large population makes their way to other areas? Yes, that's right, sharding.
I've already made the argument a dozen times but it's retarded to have a system that hard counters the forming of a community. Players need to be as static as the enviroment to form bonds with them even Kevin Jordan commented that often it's the third, or fourth time you meet someone that they start to form. Well that can't exactly happen when everyone is constantly being shuffled in to different planes of reality.. Letting them pop in and out of existence like ghosts is dumb. Especially when for Vanilla to actually function it needs community to achieve it's goals. It is nothing with out community. A perfect utopia with no meaningful interaction is terrible, be it good or bad. You need both experiences.
That's not even touching on the first time players going in to this experience that haven't got friends there already. Rivalries, friendships, etc, they're all dependant on actually being able to interact with people on a regular basis. The servers were capped at 2.5k for a reason.. they're meant to be a villiage atmosphere to promote this kind of behaviour, that was literally what the former lead and devs have said. Even Ion himself explicility said that he recognizes the importance of not fragmenting the community. It is the core of the experience. The people arguing in favour of sharding - you are the turkey that loves Christmas, or thanksgiving, whenever you americans celebrate by eating them. Blizzard are a multi-billion dollar corporation with server infrastructure that far exceeds the technology of 2004. Server caps and growing pains are preferable to stunting a communities growth and not allowing it to naturally develop.
Server caps at 2.5k-3k. Opening, closing and merging servers. Giving servers the same name but adding an indicator on the end like 1, 2 or 3 so people can retain their names when the merges happen. Those are the solutions I can think of from the top of my head. Sharding on the other hand is throwing the baby out with the bathwater - this is not the solution.
Throwing this in both threads.
If you don't want to play with sharding here is what you do.
Wait 1 month after classic release, then start playing.
You won't see sharding then.
Wait 1 month after classic release, then start playing.
You won't see sharding then.