Danuser confirmed that you can't take NPCs as factual

imagine thinking that the broken bare bones pre event is more canon than two books released after the pre event

Imagine thinking that Sylvanas didn’t set herself up to be Warchief because the book says she didn’t.

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She said she didnt like being warchief, never had a job you didnt like

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No.

In the book, she thinks she doesn’t know why Vol’jin chose her.

But we know that’s factually incorrect. She knows why she was made Warchief.

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Lmao. She fooled herself?

No. She just lies to herself in her thoughts because Blizzard is trying to pull a Bethesda, but doesn’t know how to do it.

Were Bethesda having this book written, Sylvanas would not be a POV character at all. Someone in the Undercity would be. That way, they could present all of the valid information without having the character pronounce “I HAVE NO IDEA WHY I WAS MADE WARCHIEF.”

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Well, I doubt that Sylvanas knows everything the Jailor does and is doing right now.

Meaning he could’ve made her warchief… without her knowing it.

Blizzard confirmed this whole plan was part of her pact. She was fully aware of it.

Q: Did the jailer in The Maw see the Legion as a threat which is why Sylvanas worked with Varian?

A: We’ll find out more of her motivations in Shadowlands and that her relationship with the Jailer dates back a bit. Edge of Night story involves this relationship. Working with Varian was a long term strategy in order to get Warchief - had to make allies but now we’re seeing the fruition of that.

https://www.wowhead.com/news=296023/the-jailer-is-the-main-villain-of-shadowlands-working-with-sylvanas-since-edge-o

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But that doesn’t mean that Sylvanas knows everything, how or what the Jailor does and if she didn’t know that he was going to do it…then she really didn’t know that it was him who made her a warchief.

The statement does not have to be wrong.

I didn’t say that she knew everything. I said she knew why she was made Warchief.

This right here. This states objectively she was working with Varian to manipulate the Horde and make herself appear like a decent candidate for Warchief.

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Which they’ll most likely retcon come shadowlands. So I wouldn’t put too much stock in it.

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That’s supposition.

Canon is meaningless, Blizzard couldn’t even remember Warden Stillwater died in Cata.

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Given their track record? Not exactly.

No, it’s quite literally supposition.

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I know what the definition is. And given their track record it’s not as uncertain as you want it to be

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

Your argument is baseless.

If Elegy and A Good War are canon then the Horde quest in Ashenvale is not canon, as Lorash would have already been dead at that point, and the Night Elves were the one that had planted the dead bodies there to lower the Horde’s guard, which Delaryn mentioned this trap attempt when talking to the Alliance player in the event as well.

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This is a lie.

A Good War / El;egy lie about the War of Thorns.
BTS lies about Sylvanas’s ascension.

But they are not canon, because Lorash is not dead when the player goes to do the quest. Danuser tells us not to believe NPCs, Amadis.

Delaryn, Malfurion, Tyrande, and Saurfang are NPCs.

So you admit it’s uncertain?

Thanks.

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Danuser does not say that. He explains how some NPCs may be wrong. He does not say, as you did, that 100% of NPCs are wrong.

So, once again, your argument is baseless.

Or more likely the Horde quest is not canon, just like the Alliance quests in Classic Dire Maul are not canon, because in canon it was the Horde that burned down the libraries there.

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He explains how players take everything that npcs say as absolute truth, and that you shouldn’t do that.

You take what they say as absolute truth despite having played the War of Thorns and knowing that it isn’t accurate.

You’re comparing dungeon/raid selection to a narrative focussed storyline. The Horde and Alliance cannot both complete the same dungeon, so Blizzard chooses one or the other.

Meanwhile, Blizzard writes a narrative heavy expansion, releases books in that expansion, has those books be incorrect, and then tells you in that same expansion tells you not to trust everything that NPCs say or think because they are capable of being wrong.

Do as you’re told, Amadis.

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