Son, I am disappoint.
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Everyone in my groups always gets excited when we see someone from our server. It can’t be overstated how great this is for PvP.
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- He is horde so he would benefit enormously.
- If we woke up tomorrow with no crossrealm BG’s, every horde pvp’er on badly imbalanced servers would transfer to Heartseeker.
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Someone gets it! There are maybe a handful of original Heartseeker Horde still here from September, myself included.
Same
/Tenchar
The needs of the many, outway your needs. - Alliance pro-verb.
I really enjoyed server-only battlegrounds in vanilla, and I think most of what I enjoyed about the game back then can be attributed to the community created without any of these cross server mechanics… but queues sucked. I think a lot of people forget that the reason we put up with things like long queue times was that Warcraft was a pretty solitary experience. There were no other MMOs worth playing. Hell, there weren’t many multiplayer games worth playing. The entire gaming landscape was different 15 years ago.
But there are a lot more options today. If it takes 3 hours to get into a game, “qq more no changes” is cute, but in reality most people are just going to stop playing. The grind of the classic experience is fun when you’re able to actually access the classic experience, but if there’s nothing to do, people will just do something else. It won’t be a 3 hour queue - it’ll be a 12 hour queue or a queue that never pops at all.
Now, if Blizzard could solve the problem of keeping all servers balanced, that wouldn’t be an issue. But Blizzard’s at nearly 16 years and counting for trying to solve that one, and so far Classic has been their worst showing for it yet. We’re just playing musical chairs of server transfers, rotating the dead/maxed out servers ever round.
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We can get rid of cross realm BGs as long as we can also get 1.5 AV.
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Not my needs. Cross realm BGs didn’t happen in Vanilla until after Naxx.
If they had made an effort in advance to make sure that server populations started balanced, issues would have been minor and manageable.
But it’s not like Blizzard has made any effort to balance server populations in retail beyond connecting a few realms. Keeping server population imbalanced means more paid transfers, leading to even worse imbalance and even more paid transfers. With crz along the way, and now warmode.
you’re correct, cross realm is one of the biggest mistakes blizzard ever implemented
however they’d have to do something about population imbalances that isn’t just offering free transfers
faction queues needed to happen and will need to happen once blood elves are back
I would actually be cool with that as I’m hitting 13 this week and world pvp would be nice to have lol
Back in the day when this was the case, it was definitely the best BGs. Teams developed rivalries, players got to know who was who and strategies developed based on players in the game. This was especially true for the first BG, WSG.
However, there is a reality and that is if there weren’t xrealm BGs then it would take forever to form games and then you would have the problem of world pvp gankfest. Personally I liked the world pvp, made things dangerous and more exciting when you left town. But many didn’t like that so, we have xrealm BGs.
As much as Blizzard tried, the game can’t be one-size fits all.
Could’ve stayed on Stalagg for that. 
Don’t care if I change your mind. Without cross realm battlegrounds, your av ques would be even longer than they are now. cross realm battlegrounds have been always will be a necessary aspect of any online gaming community.
I was never on stalagg lol I left faerlina to avoid all the asmonslaves clogging up server q’s after less than a week into launch.
I played Vanilla, this was true on the smaller servers(in fact sometimes BG’s wouldn’t even pop for most of the day, which is why dueling outside IF was so popular).
But I also played private servers and for the bigger servers you had near-instant queues for the minority faction 24/7, and for the majority faction the highest queue times were maybe 30 minutes(some of the servers were very imbalanced, but they usually became less imbalanced over time).
Moreover, Nostalrius usually only had about 6-8k online during NA hours, and there were always tons of BG’s going(current server capacity for non-layered servers is about 6k, and layered is about 8k).
The only thing that really benefits from crossrealms is non-60 bg’s and people playing during offpeak hours.
What I originally recommended was to have “same-realm priority BG’s”. Where it would match everyone from the same realm first(like they queued as a premade), but after X minutes it would pull from the general queue(matching other servers as a group in the same way).
On the bigger/balanced servers this would effectively eliminate crossrealm BG’s because they would almost always have enough people to fill a BG. But would also guarantee people on smaller servers and badly imbalanced servers could still play.
I recommended this before BG’s were even released, and then made a couple more posts but they preferred to destroy alliance AV premades instead, while making the other BG’s 90% premades until everyone quit playing.
This was the first time I commented on it, dated December 6th, 2019.
If you want to see my other threads, just search for “Same-server priority”.
AV isn’t worth queuing for.