Yeah but when a software engineer doesn’t want to do something, they’ll hide behind the IP-wall of, “oh, you say that because haven’t seen the source code – no way, no how! It will cause the server to crash forever and never come back, I tell you!” 
Mercenary mode was bad, and your probably right.
Having opposite factions means everyone on one side are friends and other is enemies, it didn’t stop spies from infiltrating bgs.
What I don’t get is to have blizzard make changes to go back to the server lock char only to have people find ways around it, same thing with limiting bnet chat within game I feel both is just blizzard wasting their time. Most people discord and some have already talked about having server discords meaning anyone on the server both horde and alliance will all have access to it, and on the world of brag about everything there will always be someone in chat bragging to the masses of their camping etc. Like someone said the days of streaming those doing it will start streams of their doings.
People remember well back in vanilla, well back in vanilla communication was costly, how many people remember when you had to purchase teamspeak and vent and pay monthly for how many slots you wanted most people weren’t paying for unlimited slots for any willy nilly person to join in. People need to remember this isn’t vanilla nor is 2004-2006 the world of communication is much easier and more accessible. People are talking like well if blizzard doesn’t do this then it wont happen, at this point regardless of what blizzard does it wont stop people from finding a way.
I agree that Blizzard should do what they can to discourage people from communicating cross faction. Will it prevent people from doing it? No. Will it discourage some people from going through the effort of doing it? Yes. People will find a way, but that doesn’t mean Blizzard should open the doors wide to it.
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That is quite the epic strawman, my man.
On par with a 1 pixel change? I think the significant number of replies & expressed sentiments by many in this thread imply otherwise.
I was told something along the lines that turning on Classic and it would feel as it were had I traveled back in time to the mid 2000’s. That would include faction-locking.
It was & is crucial to server & faction identity, immerseive World PvP, and the preservation of the authentic vanilla experience.
On a side note, anyone know of any updates to this topic?
No, it’s not going to do a thing about immersion and “faction identity” is immersion breaking in itself.
Immersion is never about alts.
This is very much a foot stomping topic “I want it because I want it and I want it now”.
As I have said before. It was removed without resistance. Any discussion back in the day was about cross faction action houses which was never impacted. So yes, if a pixel was changed and this forum was in an uproar, it’d carry just as much importance.
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Not sure why it’s not clicking for you.
Just because it didn’t or wont break immersion & identity for you, doesn’t mean it hasn’t or will not for many others. This is a simple #nochanges that for many (like myself) DOES MATTER.
Again, just because you didn’t notice or care for it doesn’t mean others feel the same way. The world, and the World-of-Warcraft, does not revolve around you and your “unique gaming” experience.
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What is simple and clicking is the attempt to leverage emotions with buzz words like “immersion” to make something out of nothing.
Here, let me do it for you.
#NoChange
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Any argument attempted will land on deaf ears beyond #NoChange. Why? Because anything you can say that isn’t about feels and emotions is already defeated by anything and everything in modern gaming.
The change to the cross faction character creation was never contested. #nochange is the only hope and that’s not much.
Just to be clear this was a PvP only thing. On PvE you could have both factions on the same server. I’ve only ever really played on PvE/RP-PvE. I’ve never had issues with making multiple characters across both factions.
Btw PvP servers will have less incentive for us PvE players to join. I remember PvP servers being extremely popular amongst my friends back in the day before BGs were added. Once we got BGs I don’t think any of us played PvP servers.
That’s not to discredit pvp servers, but we’re starting at a point where if we want pvp we can just queue. Back in the old days (from my experience) it was be on a pvp server to experience pvp since there were no BGs. After BGs became a thing world pvp severely died off do to a combination of players going back to PvE servers and being able to participate in pvp and the convenience BGs.
I mean PvE servers you can make alts anyway so this is irrelevant. PvP servers you wont be ableto communicate but as was said before I always enjoyed getting whispers from salty players. I remember in MoP camping an opposing guild leader and getting whispers from his guild mates for over half an hour. We were so proud. but on PvE servers you can literally play both factions soo… if you dont wanna hear from them then dont accept their btag requests…
This is just wrong. Having pretty much always played on a PvP server on all of my accounts I can assure you that even after BGs launched there were plenty of PvP fights at places like crossroads and places like that.
Sure on a PvP server the was still some world action, but comparing it to the pre-BG state it was severely diminished. The hottest raid spots became the WSG queue centers in Ashenvale/Barrens. It also became terrible for Honor farm and the DK system prevented town/ city raids drastically.
By mid vanilla PvP servers were a shell of what they were when first implemented.
Classic is going to be 1.12 with all the world pvp cripples in place. As far as we know.
I know this is an older thread. But it is a topic I find interesting. I don’t think we should see Cross-Faction play in “Classic”.
I am a bit more open to the idea of Cross Faction in the current iteration of WoW given the way the narrative has played out across several expansions.
With the narrative story beats in current WoW? It does begin to feel a bit old hat with Horde vs. Alliance even if that is the entire premise of what Warcraft has long been about. But how long can they keep that going? Eventually things will have to evolve. And it makes some degree of sense given that you have major faction leaders who seem willing to work together.
it is faction locked on pvp servers