Cranky Quarantine Thread

Don’t forget that she didn’t exactly succeed the first time around too. Took her a few goes to get Daniel Craig to comply.

It’s bonkers how different the lightsaber fighting is in the three trilogies.

In the originals, it looks like fencing.

In the prequels, it looks like friggin’ capoeira ballet.

In the sequels, it looks like cavepeople bludgeoning each other with driftwood.

Welcome to the bullpen, cowboy. Wave red flags, get charged.

Ma’am, this is a Warcraft forum.

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I’m going to say there is probably a good 50% chance that we’re going to have to go on another adventure with Thrall so he can try for a…fifth time? to resolve his family issues.

Won’t that be fun.

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And again, Aggra will be present for, like one Wyvren Ride then forgotten completely.

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Aggra didn’t even get to show up to her own assassination.

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do you think it annoyed Aggra when Alexstrasza used pregnancy vision on her without asking first

I think it might annoy Alexstrasza that we went through bloody wars and genocide for the future of Azeroth that is Thrall’s baby Steve’gar and the kid hasn’t even done anything to cash that check his dad wrote.

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Hold up…Aggra died? It kind of showcases how much of a nothing character she is if so, but…I’ve been gone a year. Probably missed something.

Oh hey, there’s another thing I’m cranky about. The new breed of Chromatic/Infinite/Twilight Dragons BfA introduced, those Void Dragons. And how they were voiding Alexstraza’s eggs and she casually dismisses them as her children while ordering us to cut them down.

Catacylsm had some really, really, really bad voice work but at least in Dragon Soul when Deathwing turned up with the Twilight Dragons Alexstraza’s VA made an attempt at the emotion of being conflicted about having to kill her corrupted children.

You know, because of the forced breeding and using her offspring as dogs of war.

In the cinematic where Saurfang showed up to thrall and forsaken arrived to kill him and his family Blizzard didnt bother animating Aggra

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I mean, fair being fair, Blizzard’s never bothered to do ANYTHING with Aggra. I honestly can’t even remember where she came from. Feels like she just turned up in Cataclysm, already married to Thrall.

Mourns the passing of the Good Ship Jaina

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let’s all pay tribute to aggra by watching the 4.2 cinematic where she helps broody thrall with her barely animated face and weird accent that no other orc has

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If memory serves she first showed up in the Cataclysm tie in Novel to further train Thrall in Shamanism

Ah the classic “Vital game information relegated to secondary media”. I read the Black Library output because I find it enjoyable and it’s by no means required to play games within the settings the Black Library covers.

I stopped reading WarCraft novels specifically because they became a requirement to figure out what was going on. For the five minutes they were canonical, that is.

Then Night of the Dragon happened and…no. Never again.

It’s the same reason I dropped David Weber’s output after reading Out of the Dark. Just…so…dumb

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even chronicles aren’t technically fully canon anymore

Warcraft lore is shakier than a 9.0 earthquake

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Man, remember when they billed Chronicles as The Real Definitive Lore Going Forward, No More Retcons We Promise?

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I said at the time that was BS. Blizz can’t help themselves.

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Yes, transmedia storytelling is still a buzzword-ish sort of thing. Idealistic creatives strive for it, at times, while producers/anyone dealing with the numbers of it all generally find it worthless.

It is not done well with WoW, and probably will never be done well at all for any IP, in no small part due to the fuzzy line between “telling part of the story with a novel” and “let’s merchandise the hell out of this brand!”

Personally, I believe that in order for this to work the secondary forms of media have to be part of your customer base’s preferred forms of media e.g. if the majority of players were, you know, readers, then you MIGHT be on to something with novels as part of the transmedia spread.

If it were a hardcore RPG, where RPers where the overwhelming majority, then books might work. Still, you’d need to bundle them with the expansion – the base expansion – and/or make them available in some cheap, digital format e.g. free e-books.

Because otherwise, you’re double dipping into licensing/merchandising and brand marketing, you’re trying to have your cake and eat it, too, and ffs that doesn’t really work in life.

Where have they done well with this? Probably the small comic-style animations and free digital comics. More of the playerbase will consume this content.

But here’s the thing… MMOs are persistent, so the use of additional media e.g. the Warbringers stuff should be sufficient during gaps where current content is getting to be old and overdone. You should not need, or use, a novel to tell part of this story.

Also, before you attempt transmedia maybe plan out a good story where you don’t have to retcon everything and destroy people’s confidence in terms of investing time into your brand.

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did he though

did he “expertly” subvert them

I want live action imperial inquistors

They were dope in rebels and fallen order

How much money do I have to throw at EA’s face for them to give me an entire game where I get to play as the Second Sister from Fallen Order?

Because I’ll pay any price

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