I don’t believe it’s wise to disavow a part of a recipe or an equation in order denote that the whole is “ok”.
To me that’s akin to trying to bake a cake and stating “Well, you have bad eggs, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the cake is bad because of it, it’s also how it’s baked.”
There’s some truth there, but bad eggs going into a cake will still negatively impact it.
Over all I agree that there’s a community / perception issue that needs to be resolved, but it’s still part of the equation that what’s feeding it is how the game is built.
It can be resolved. It’s just a matter of the game developers deciding to put in the time and effort. It’s math. Complex math, yes, but still math which means it can be balanced.
Bad analogy. It would be more like saying that you should just toss out a cake that only has 96% of the sugar that the recipe calls for. A top tier chef with a godly sense of taste will probably notice, but bring it to a birthday party and most people will be just fine with it.
The real issue was Blizzard, once again, ignoring months upon months of user feedback in testing all saying that locking player power to covenants was a terrible idea that was going to piss everybody off.
I decided recently to focus PVP over raiding and swapped to Kyrian to try it out, but just did some reading and apparently the best Ret covenant all around as of 9.0.5 is Kyrian, not Venthyr. I really don’t give a crap. Once I get the spider mount, I am going back to Venthyr because the Kyrian are huge nerds.
I don’t understand the logic people have of “You’re not going to be the best, so it’s okay to take abilities that will make you even worse.” If anything, they SHOULD be taking the best choices, in order to make up for what they lack in skill, not drop the maximum they can reach even on their best days.
No they didnt. I am a necrolord outlaw rogue and Serrated Bone Dagger is less than 5% of my total dps at the best of times and less than 1% at the worst.
If Serrated Bone Dagger was removed from the game or never existed my dps would be basically the same.
Pretty much, I’ve seen some top end raiders and so forth be able to adapt and even admit that while not perfect, it’s gotten to a spot that there is no big glaring difference that should matter.
What difference does it make to me, you, everyone not doing mythic CN in the top 1% ? that is the key question here.
Yes those pushing world first, doing the MDI etc. are going to spend the time and energy to get that extra .00001% advantage because they are playing at a level where that matters. For the rest of us covenant balance does not make enough of a difference for us to worry about.
Let’s take the OP from his profile as an example. Doing LFR and a bit of Heroic CN can all be done with any covenant so it doesn’t matter to them what the top .1% of players are doing.
Dunning Keurig brews the best coffee. I absolutely can not start my day until I’ve had a shower and my Dunning Keurig to brew me up a nice steaming cup of coffee.
Use your brain a bit. the .000001% was an exaggeration and you know it. quit playing dumb. If you thought it was anything other than overstating then your ignorant. If you knew it was an exaggeration and threw it back in their face then your just looking for a reason to fight and your an jerk.
And here’s the math. You can do 5300 dps and down the boss without going to the last sliver of his HP (which is the whole argument about those not doing CE content not needing perfectly balanced min/max.) Doing 7900 will do it faster. But you don’t need it to clear effectively … just faster.
No wonder everyone makes fun of my guardian druid for being Venthyr, there’s not even a <1% entry on that table, it’s totally blank. I swear Ravenous Frenzy + Berserk + Ursoc legendary isn’t that bad!
The druid is a rarely played alt, what bums me out more is that my current main, resto shaman, went Kyrian. It doesn’t feel that bad for healing, but when I off spec ele I put up some crap numbers compared to our Necrolord shamans. I’ve considered switching, but I feel like it’s a lot of work, and as soon as I do they’ll buff Kyrian/nerf NL.
Sure they can be done with any, but they can be done more effectively with the right one. Sure that’s not a problem for world first guys, but for groups who’s progression is just normal or heroic, they still get a benefit from it.
If they’re going to throw around garbage numbers to try to prove their point, I’m going to use real statistics to make them take it back. The difference is nearly 2000 DPS, but sure bud…it doesn’t matter.
Nothing toxic about it, it’s simply a matter of statistics. If you’re at a level where your covenant choice plays a significant role in your output, you’ll switch accordingly. People race change for a .01% advantage, so there’s no reason you wouldn’t do it for covenants as well.
Top PvP covenants would be an interesting addition to these charts.
Is the assumption then that the only difference between all of these parses is the specific soulbinds and abilities and not at all any selection bias with the best players always favoring the best spec?
Soul rot is a 2000 dps ability all on its own? A warlock who only casts soul rot would be putting out about 2000 dps?
No comment on the top parse guy having 30% uptime on power infusion?