They really need to give you a reasonable amount of conquest when you lose, playing for 10 hours to only get slightly over 1k conquest is ridiculous.
No, I am not deformed enough to go farm boxes.
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Bgs should give like 200 conquest everytime for a win if crates give 60 everytime. Why does clicking a box give better rewards then actually pvping?
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That is not what this thread is about, I do not care about the conquest you get for wins. I want conquest on loss so I can actually get a reasonable amount of conquest for my time spent.
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Well I agree with that too. Personally I would just remove conquest from the game and have honor gear scale up to 298 instead. There isn’t any actual reason for conquest beyond making us grind for longer. You don’t really “earn” it anymore if all you have to do is click a box. Losing a bg is still harder then clicking a box in a 40 man raid group.
Conquest only exists to make it so you cant play the game later in the season without severe suffering trying to gear up.
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so you can afk your way to a full conq set?
gonna be a no from me dog.
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basically when they give conquest for losses bgs get infested with bots and afkers who dont participate.
the system i have always advocated for is for honor gear to be the same ilvl as conquest gear but with templated stats, and let players buy the whole set for 250 gold. then let them get conquest gear with custom stats, similar to how you made leggos in SL with that forge.
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Why are you trying to farm conquest in random bgs? Even if you had a 100% win rate, it would still be the slowest method of gearing a character.
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Conquest gains should inflate same as mmr across a season.
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Do you want every BG to be full of AFKers and bots?
Because this is how you’d get every BG full of AFKers and bots.
I mean trying to gear up exclusively with random bgs is quite ridiculous as well. Even before crate farms random bgs were always giga slow conquest gain, that’s simply not what they are for.
Get yourself a mate and que up some 2s, super fast conquest that way. Or find a yolo RBG group, or que up the solo mode (tho those are long ques if you don’t have a healer friend to duo que with). Anything rated will give you much much more conquest than random bgs. Those have never been a good way to farm conquest.
This is not a bad idea at all. Even with this tho they can’t give lots of conquest on a loss, that’s just a recipe for people to AFK in bgs.
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Ive been saying this for years. Honestly it really does seem the wow command wants to kill battle grounds. Normally conquest is for winning, we understand that… but todays pvp state needs some sort of extra incentive. Heck even 200 bloody tokens for 10 conq would be acceptable. But a loss should grant more than honor IF you are already in Honor pvp gear.
The whole point of conquest is ur beating people and winning. No reason to give it out for free especially when crate farming exists already.
would be nice if 15k honor let u turn it into like 750 conquest or 15k bloody tokens was liek 250 conquest. I literally cant honor or tokens fast enough with how much they throw at you.
Would be nice to get those PVP invasions back too they gave conquest for actually playing the game.
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Just increase conquest from WINS after the first win of the day.
Problem solved.
Yeah they need to revisit conquest gains from rated and unrated play again as in they need to increase them.
It’s really a crazy state of the game. People who like the gear power gap are somehow fine with lame crate farms but not fine with more conquest being given for playing BGs. lol
Playing 
Winning
Being in a BG aint enough u need to push to win. No reason to reward quitters and AFKers “let them win we get conquest anyway” nty
That’s exactly what would happen. Its a big problem in Classic where you get marks, even if you lose so people instantly say “gg go next” and afk so they can collect their mark and go to the next game. The exact same thing would happen in retail if you got conquest for losing. If anything they need to bump the Conquest gained from winning to actually incentivize competitive gameplay.
That mentality is why the quitters and afkers, and purple hairs run society. We cater to them. How about once we cater to players. Afkers can be dealt with with better detection, quitters get nothing… simple. Getting SOMETHING other than honor is a step in the right direction to reignite BG participation. Not only should players get something more, players 80 to 89 should get into regular Rbgs with the standard ilvl bump, and Big XP to level. Also, like i said earlier, these extra rewards (conquest or something to get conquest) should only be given after the player has full Honor gear.
Disagree 100%.
If you lose. YOU LOSE.
Win if you want conquest.
Or crate farm and do wpvp. Its literally free to do.
they should add the bfa world quests back
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healers get conquest for losses in shuffle yet it isn’t infested with bots and afk’ers
giving some conquest for losses is fine, to respect players’ time - it’s bliz’s fault for the bad matchmaking
pvp gearing is just a /timeplayed grind and how long it takes should have a smaller delta between the fastest and slowest players