Ignored. Next.
lmao well, ima keep getting my “easy” champion track gear. stay mad
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It’s a valid point to bring up when questioning your credibility.
I’ve killed queen. Looking at achievements is hard.
Even full hero gear, you’re still hard capped 619 until you’re clearing 9 keys. Which less than 5 % of people can do right now. And by the time the other 95% are even close to clearing 9 keys… it’ll be mostly because they were getting carried by the 5% that eventually will have mostly myth track gear, way way way before everyone else.
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People like to feel powerful with minimal effort. I think that gilded should drop +8, but I can also see the argument that +8 is far too easy for the significant power bump that you can achieve through gilded crests at that level.
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Race to world first is pure and perfect example that gear doesn’t matter how much skill matters.
You can give me fully upgraded PvP gear and still I won’t be able to reach gladiator title. You can give me full mythic gear I doubt with my guilds that we would be able to complete the raid on mythic.
Having good gear helps people clear solo content, delves and other stuff easier. It helps them having fun. It won’t affect skilled players at all. And I mean literally at all.
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What’s wrong with Stonevault?
And you missed the point. It’s being bored below max progression because somehow, that’s a negative? lol.
Farming 18s for mythic gear could work, just like farming heroic dungeons for mythic gear could work.
The real question is how many people you want to include or exclude.
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Stone vault is disgustingly toxic, especially on the rock elemental boss that will crush most PUGs on tyrannical.
That dungeon has been unkind to many people in LFG this week.
Is there data to support that only 5% of the people that really try to push keys are only able to clear 9’s, or are we just saying that to bolster a point?
If you have the item level and aren’t punching up, 9’s really aren’t that hard.
Yeah you have to do mechanics, interrupt, etc. but that’s a good thing. Gear and crests shouldn’t just be handed out to people stumbling though dungeons.
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Having mechanics =/= toxic.
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DF, Shadowlands, BFA - Farm 18s for mythic upgrades. Might work? It did work. It was working.
Heroic gear is worthless if your hard capped at 619 which is the cap of champ gear.
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DF gave best loot s1 (at +20)
that was also working.
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I never specified mechanics, nice assumption.
But you’re saying anything that allows people to fail = toxic. aka mechanics.
Zekvir ??? or take one of the Mythic raid bosses and put them inside of a Delve like Zek’vir, if you solo it you get a Mythic track piece on a week long lock out.
I will stand by for any rebuttals against this. It will be entertaining to see the cognitive dissonance based disagreement: “It’s too out of the box, therefore it shouldn’t exist!!!” 
If you can time an 8 you can time a 9. The argument for dropping gilded to 8 is just so dumb.
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That’s not what I said. How can you make such a silly statement when my original comment sits there unedited.
Log off.
idc about myth track gear. a lot of good mythic piece lookalikes can be sold on AH so ill buy those.
but i will care to get the champ gear required to complete some of the normal/heroic transmogs doing tier8 and getting runed crests from vault.
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This is what you said.
People do not do mechanics on the rock elemental boss, they die.
Like, did you know orbs INCREASE healing done by 50% each? I didn’t.
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Do people unironically think 9’s (best loot and best crests) are harder than 20’s were?
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