I’m not sure I get the point of adding yet another arcane focused race when we only have 1 arcane class. And especially when both blood elves and void elves are arcane heavy.
How many mages are people making?
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Considering how culturally inspired Dalaran seemed to be by Quel’Thalas, you’d just end up with high elves being high elves.
The real unique and culturally distinct high elves are the Highvale. No magic, more in tune nature.
Conflicted. Spellbreaker Class would go hard, but ELF FATIGUE.
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Like … Farstriders?
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Can probably reduce some of that conflicted state. The chances of a Spellbreaker class is basically nil. There is about no way a class all about countering magic could be balanced in either PvE or PvP.
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You’re playing the anti magic class for pvp right now.
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Well, it’s about to get real elfy next expansion so if there’s any a time to add Spellbreaker or some kind of battlemage it’s then.
Another elf class doesn’t sound great though. And the alternative would probably be a void class that would also be elf themed because Alleria/void elves.
Yeah, that would be like having a class that is all about countering demons.
Not really expecting a class at all, but if there is… I mean, yeah, I have trouble picturing an elf themed class that isn’t some flavor of battlemage. I greatly hope there isn’t another elf locked offering at any rate.
I hope there’s one, feels like there hasn’t been a new class since MoP.
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No, I am playing a class with anti-magic abilities. Not one built around anti-magic. Spellbreakers would have to have notably more anti-magic than DKs. They would need to be more anti-magic than all the classes. Which would in turn mean they had to be weaker in non-magic situations. It would be a balance nightmare.
I agree.
Don’t like Evokers?
No. I’m tired of these super race restricted classes. Monk was the last time we got a proper new class. Evoker was extra annoying because we got this random pulled out of nowhere class when there’s other classes people actually wanted that could have been added.
At least a battlemage could reasonably be spread to other races even if it was elf themed.
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umm…
One Human
One Night Elf
One Worgen
One Blood Elf
One Nightbourne
One Goblin…
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Well, Balance druids make use of arcane magic too, but that’s not relevant to what I want to reply with.
Namely, I think the biggest mistakes Allied Races ever made, was boiling them down to a gimmick. The Void Elves’ gimmick is, the Void. The Lightforged Draenei’s gimmick is, the Light. The Mechagnome’s gimmick is, Technology. The Kul Tiran’s gimmick is, winning the all-you-can-eat contests (in case its not clear, I really HATE the fact playable Kul Tiras are literally just fat humans and not part Drust or something).
Having High Elves who aren’t a gimmick (Arcane Race #2, Alliance edition), but an actual race with multiple facets (Mages, Rangers, Priests, etc…) provides more depth to the setting and more avenues for players to immerse themselves. Dalaran is a city of mages, yes, but it’s also been a city of learning, a city where Antonidas tried to discern the source of the Orc’s lethargy, a city where Ronin welcomed Varian and Garrosh Hellscream to discuss the looming threat of Ulduar, etc… It’s not been a perfect city, but nor was it ever a city that took the approach of, “If you’re not a mage, GTFO.”
Dalaran is a multi-racial city, and is inspired by many different cultures. Not just elven and human, but dwarven and gnomish as well. It was a place where one could engage in a path of their choosing and find joy in it, where we have High Elven pastries conjurers, flower vendors, mixed-race couples running an inn together, etc… by contrast to Quel’Thalas where people seek power, prestige, and privilege above others, a Quel’Thalas where Astalor Bloodsworn dismisses his apprentice in a mocking letter, informing her that she’s good for little more than basket weaving and because he doesn’t associate with basket weavers, she’d best clear her desk. The very fact a, “basket weaver,” is used as a pejorative indicates a cultural stigma against any career that doesn’t climb the social ladder. By contrast, a basket weaver sounds like the sort of profession that’d have been warmly welcomed and respected in Dalaran.
It was however a city where only mages had any say in policy, and only mages elected to the Six.
To be fair, the Drust are only signficant in one part of Kul Tiras, Drustvar itself. I’m not fully on board with Kul Tirans as presented, I would have rathred have them as a body customisation, but I’m not sure how it should have been implemented
That’s a bit like saying, “Lordaeron was only ever a kingdom where the nobility had any say in policy, therefor a Lordaeron Human Allied Race’s identity is just, ‘Noble.’”
Dalaran might be a multi-racial city, but it’s pretty elven in terms of aesthetics and architecture. According to some at this point really old lore high elves even partook in the building of at least some of Dalaran’s structures.
Do note that I said inspired, not copied so none of this.
Would be at odds with this.
It’s also unsure how much of Astalor in that letter is coloured by their post-invasion blood elven culture that became a lot more ruthless and how much of it is due to the pre-invasion high elven culture. The Magisters and Blood Knights are equally dismissive towards other professions such as the Farstriders and in the case of the Blood Knight, mining, which is vital to their continued existence as armoured knights.
This you would certainly see in pre-invasion Quel’Thalas, you’d absolutely see it after the invasion too.
This not so much because it was a rather isolationistic kingdom even at the best of times.
And ultimately, to tack on what I said about him earlier, he’s not a good example of what either quel’dorei or sin’dorei society might represent and be like.
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I’m not arguing that you wouldn’t see people working this jobs before or even after in Quel’Thalas, only how Quel’Thalas had always fostered a culture of advancement, of climbing the social ladder. The Windrunners considered an arranged marriage between Sylvanas and Kael’thas. Heck, the entire reason Dar’khan Drathir even betrayed Quel’Thalas to begin with was that he was aiming for Grand Magister and got turned down for the role.
By contrast, Dalaran is more laid back. People do what they want and don’t get mocked for it. They pursue their passions without stigma to hold them back.
He’s an example, and as a lore character of significance (not major, but we are talking about the man responsible for the Blood Knights even existing), I think he’s a good example.
There is no way Dalaran and Quel’Thalas have the same culture. Similiarities, sure, but then Dalaran has similarities with plenty of other nations, because it’s a multi-racial nation.
Who knows where Dalaran’s culture will end up going forward as is, now that it’s been destroyed again?
Hobo mages.
Which is amongst the ruling class, which is also seen amongst the ruling class of Quel’Thalas.
Most probably wouldn’t be in Quel’Thalas either.
He’s a good example of the Thalassian upper class.
At no point did I say anything remotely close to them having the same culture, only that they have similarities and the magocratic culture of Dalaran, as seen with its architecture amongst others, seem as though it’s inspired by that of Quel’Thalas.
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