Completely Obliterated in PvP

Classes Mage
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My mage is level 78, and I am having lots of trouble in PvP.

My gear level is 493.

However, I noticed that as any spec, my spells are doing minimal damage to people in the 78 to 79 BG PvP bracket. My pyroblasts deal only about 4% of a target’s health. Even after turning on combustion, it takes forever to kill a warrior.

I also noticed that Monks and Warriors in this bracket seem indestructible and there was a battle where a warrior fought vs me and another mage, killing the other mage, and the battle lasted super long.

Hunters are also taking away 30 to 40% of my HP in the first few seconds. Shadow Priests and Destruction Warlocks seem to burst me down very fast too.

Am I doing something wrong, or is it just a gear issue? Will the situation improve at level 80?

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Hello, i play mage and hunter, this exp im maining hunter but played ome frost mage also. This is the first time since i started playing pvp daily (started 1st season of dragonflight) that, as a hunter, im getting wrecked by frost mages when i play bm and survival, im not a skilled player but last season i could get duelist and always had a good time against mages, this time is different, I think even with todays ice lance nerf, frost mage is one of the best an strongest specs in pvp right now in all brackets, arcane is also powerfull but i think fire is in a bad spot…
When you get full max current ilevel at level 80, you will problably have better times

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You are playing fire. Already requiring you to run glass cannon to do terrible damage which is 15% off your max hp which is already lower than other classes in the first place.

It is C tier almost F tier in PvP at 80 because your damage is literally so bad, pyroblasts during combust with all buffs only hit about 400k on 7m healthpools, below 80 it is miserable.

Play frostfire and make sure you use frostfire bolt when empowered because it hits like a truck and its basically all of our damage. Other than that, running Gpy is almost required to kill someone by yourself since it chunks 30%.

You also should not die to a warrior alone. You can nova and walk away, when he charges, blink, alter time, displace back, he leaps/charges, you alter back, then you have another charge of blink, also using slow on your general talents to keep a slow on them.

This is my current gear/talents for pvp if you want to copy them. https://check-pvp.fr/us/Moon%20Guard/Filthymitts

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The pre-80 bracket is extremely unbalanced, so I wouldn’t worry about that. You’re playing against people who are using partial set bonuses from the last expansion and may have stacked versatility over pve stats.

You will probably be level 80 by the time you read this so much of your concerns may be resolved when you get your pvp honor gear.

In that regard, your current baseline item level is a huge problem, and it actually may be 60% of the issue here.

As soon as you hit lvl 80 get your starting PvP gear from the honor vendor in Dornogal, it will raise your item lvl to 626 in PvP and will also give you a huge versatility buff.

I play 2v2 most of the time, and in that setting there are some matchups that are near unbeatable.

I would say don’t worry about losing streaks for now, just find a friend and farm your weekly conquest points.

All that being said, as frost spec, you should be coming out on top over warrior most of the time in 1v1 situations. In PvP 97% of the mages I have encountered in arena and bgs are frost speced.

I know that you are in that unfortunate squishy spot right now, but I think you should stick with it. Mage is one of the most rewarding classes in WoW. It has it’s ups and downs, but I think the holy trinity plus hunter (Warrior, Mage, Priest + Hunter) will always win out over the Flavor of the Month classes.

Just remember, you chose mage because it’s a very fun class and WoW Arena PvP is a footnote of a footnote of WoW content.

If you want to flex to other classes, remember that the Warband system encourages you to branch of each expansion and try new things out. There’s no harm in seeing if the grass is greener as a melee or healing class/spec. Why not give evoker a try? It’s essentially a mage with mobility on steroids.

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Don’t worry about pre-80, the game is “balanced” around level cap. Fire is in a not so good place at the moment in any bracket. Very rarely will you see one and they don’t seem to do well. Not yet anyway.

Frostfire frost is brilliant at 80 and geared so, it does get much, much better. You will enjoy that we hard counter warriors so, take your revenge then.

We do have our counters though so play smart against a MM hunter, spriest and warlock. Dks can be a pain too. It’s all about outsmarting your opponent which I find very appealing. Pick your fights and use your utility.

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Right here is your problem… you are still rocking the stuff from the last expansion. At lvl 78 you should be well into the 500’s.

Your gear is probably the reason you are getting rocked so hard. :confused: gear up buttercup.

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