Community Council vs WoW Ambassador, Prioritization & Strategy

Over the last two years there has been a significant downturn in community council (CC) presence. Reduced posts here, as well as a reduction of interaction with Blizzard. Yet, there has been seemingly an increased effort in the (newer) “WoW Ambassador” (WA) program. Some things that make me feel this way:

  1. CC members are to participate for one year, despite this most of us currently are on our second or third years given multiple delays in a refresh. For well over a year it’s been radio silence in the CC program, and no real communications advertising for new CC members.
  2. WA’s discord was created, and has been advertised across the launcher & social media to try and network people together into that space & program.

Here are some distinctions between the two programs that I think matter:

Community Council:
The WoW Community council is (was?) essentially a focus group of diverse people across various aspects of the game. From role-play, raiding, addon developers, and more people come and share their perspective on the game in this forum. This is incredibly helpful as a feedback tool to get a microcosm of information & diverse prospective in one place. While Blizzard collects quantitative data across all it’s members, social media, sales, and forums - this focus group provides helpful qualitative feedback that can help explain why the data might be how they are.

WoW Ambassadors:
WA’s are specialized helpful people across the WoW community that aim to help players new and old learn and interact with the game. Primarily operating out of a Discord group, this team works to interact more directly with players and Blizzard to provide more dynamic feedback as updates and player preferences change.

See more here: https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24244402

One key difference between CC’s and WA’s are that CC’s are usually (not always!) well enmeshed in WoW gameplay, and are typically long-term players. We provide perspectives that are often historical and (for many of us) WoW is a primary game for us. This certainly biases our feedback, but not in a negative way - just a way that’s different than asking someone off the street what their thoughts are. We’ve been around! Yet, with the WA model, players interact and provide feedback in a way that’s often targeted towards newer players and builds community in this way.

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With the focus on new players ramping up I wonder if the goal is to replace CC with the WA program in some way. Beyond this, I’m wondering if the WA program actually provides better feedback. If “better” means a more popular game, gaining players, keeping new players, and providing feedback more publicly (where players comment and interact with one another) - then I think WA is a better model. Does this necessitate the replacement of CC with this model though? I think there could be value in both, or a merging of programs - CC members become their own group within the WA community, consolidating voices and providing a singular location where feedback is generated and discussed.

Qualitative feedback lives and dies by our ability to record and interpret it, so I’m just posting this as a conversation starter on how the system(s) could be more well rounded.

Thanks for everything you do!

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Both have value and I miss the days of the Community Council speaking with the devs in video podcasts about specific topics.

Here is to hoping Kaivax and Linxy will bridge the gap between the two groups and connect us. Looking forward to meeting both again at BlizzCon 2026 soon, as well as everyone else!

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I think the WoW ambassadors and the Q&A they have been doing well it just really highlights the current state of the council. It is in a weird state where there is just no communication. Which kind of hurts the original purpose of why the council was formed. I think the main concerns of posters here is that they don’t even know if the posts are even being read by devs most of the time. It can feel like speaking into the void.

On the flip side I don’t think the council necessarily needs to continue since WoW is a lot different from when it first formed years ago. In my eyes it was formed after how both BfA and Shadowlands players felt ignored and then the council was formed. I think since that time Blizzard has improved massively. There are still issues in the game for sure but only a fraction of only what I felt like it was before.

The other thing is as mentioned the focusing of efforts on WoW Ambassadors which I think is a good thing.

The Bad

• The last time someone posted in the Introduce Yourself thread was April 2024
• The last Q&A livestream with a dev with community council members was 2023
• The last Community Manager post was in September 2024
• The last Developer post was from May 2024

The Good

• WoW ambassadors so partnered discords and players can ask questions there
• I think Blizzard surveys have been going out a lot more over the last few years which gives more individuals the chance to voice their feedback

What I think should happen:

Option A: Retire the council and focus efforts on wow ambassadors

Option B: Revitalize the council with new invites and resuming more active talks between player and developer

Either option I think makes sense it is just a matter of where effort is put in. But I think the current situation where annually there is an existential thread or seeing posts on the general wow forums or reddit about how the devs ignore the community council isn’t great. I don’t think that is necessarily true but I think we need to acknowledge how it looks to players. Gaining player perspective is why this council was formed to begin with. Anyone can admit it is bad PR that doesn’t need to continue to happen. An unforced error that I hope is resolved one way or another.

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Well said!