Common IC viewpoints you just don't get

I think the minor issue there is that it implies Garithos actually succeeds in killing the Kirin Tor and doesn’t cause a alternate timeline where Belves are Alliance because he tried that and a new level opened up with Modera being semi sneaking and using magic to absolutely dunk on Garithos.

That said, I shall still forwards Garithos as an entirely legitimate IC reason for Belves to hate humans since a handful deciding they forgave (more so when that handful is void elves who had no where else to go) doesn’t really impact the grand scheme. Sure as heck wasn’t humans fixing the Sunwell.

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How many memories of the Lion King are back up in there?

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Though time will tell if putting the corpse of a being made of Holy Magic that naturally goes Void as part of its life cycle was a good idea. (As I recall from the Heritage Armor quest, that vial of Sunwell water starts getting a bit…voidy…towards the end of said quest)

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Sprays No void wells for heretic elves.

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Theoretically, so long as a Naaru gets enough souls, it will never go Void, although we still don’t know if the Naaru actually consumes the soul and destroys it entirely to renew itself, or it just gnaws off some of the Anima and denies the Shadowlands a portion of its due.

That said, it has been mentioned that every single Naaru that gets involved with Mortals tends to go Void-y in the end.

And remembering how the Light works, so long as you believe in something strongly enough, and with enough positive emotions, the Light will respond. And so, with the Sin’dorei basically worshipping their Sunwell as the font of their civilisation and long lives, the Naaru ‘core’ that was infused into the Sunwell is likely to remain alive and intact. Which could also end up being very very bad in its own way, as someday that Naaru could, with enough faith being poured into the Sunwell, eventually resurrect and, after marinating in the metaphysical blood of the most powerful Titan World Soul to date, be something even stronger than Xe’ra, the only Prime Naaru we’ve met or heard of to date.

And Velen was still plagued with nightmarish visions inflicted on him by the Void Lords at that time …

And still operating under Xe’ra’s twisted visions and teachings, mistakenly believing that she ‘cared’ for anything other than her self-made prophecies…

Internal screaming intensifies

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and that the current functional king of Stormwind is a cult chimp for Xe’ra…

Well, now you’re just being catty. Turalyon straight up watched Xe’ra get felsploded and his overall reaction was “OH…okay, then.”

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I think the ‘oh ok then.’ moment was probably partly because a weakened Illidan caught his attack ez and Turalyon figured he was 5 seconds from death on that line of thought.

No, it was clearly an “oh okay then” moment because in the moment he was about to challenge Illidan by saying “I’ve got another scar for you,” he second-guessed himself because he worried that sounded stupid and decided to say nothing rather than risk his reputation with the Draenei by coming after Illidan with weak burns.

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See, you’re forgetting one very important factor here.

That hasn’t stopped Blizz before.

I want Turalyon to start talking Draenei to an actual Draenei, them to stop, look at him and ask “Why did you say your mother is a goat?”.

And to have every Lightforged Draenei in the background either burst into laughter or yell “Don’t ruin this for us!”.

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It’s not very relevant to the conversation but because it is one of the most wtf things Blizzard has ever done, I want to remind everyone about the time the essence of the Sunwell was disguised and raised as a human girl. And had a fling with Kalecgos.

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The funny thing is, technically speaking, Kael’thas was on the Six at the time as well.

I suspect the Kirin Tor weren’t even anywhere near able to rebuild their structure after it had been so decimated. So even if they’d wanted to oppose Garithos, they really didn’t have the means to. It took them several years to fully rebuild. By the unofficial timeline, it was a solid 5 years before the Kirin Tor even had the city functional again.

Not to mention we don’t really know for certain if Modera had any position or power at the time. Or if they were even holed up in the same part of the Ruins of Dalaran as Garithos. There’s too much uncertain.

How so?

My Void Elf Ranger is a void elf almost purely because of that moment haha. The Sunwell is a major strategic liability. Its corruption nearly doomed the race before, and that took an army of Scourge to truly achieve. Recently it was very nearly corrupted because a void-tainted individual took a stroll nearby. That’s scary.

So yeah, he’s a velf because it’s better to have a power source that can’t be easily eliminated.

“How do you khrono-kah kreestor, fellow kids?”

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A part of me wants to argue that one guy doing a thing isn’t a good reason, the rest of me has to acknowledge that Garithos hates all Elves because they weren’t quite fast enough on the uptake for his liking so fair enough.

I think it’s fair to associate that entire situation more with emotion than with logic, to be honest. The guy did literally attempt to kill every single Sin’dorei under his command. Sin’dorei who specifically left their own destroyed homeland to help the humans of Lordaeron with their fight against the Scourge. It’s a monumental betrayal, and one that would be difficult, in a way, to rationalise away just because it was one man. An awful lot of other people at the very least stayed silent about it, or at worst outright supported Garithos. I’m with Loh on this - I think a Blood Elf using it as a reason to distrust humans is fair.

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Is this some odd thing from one of the Warcraft manga?

Yes.

10chars.

Now that I think about it the dude was looking for the slightest excuse to grab his elf-killing sword. Him being in charge at all is probably enough reason for a several thousand year old elf to question the judgement of humans.

Doesn’t even need evidence, the head of state/government of a sovereign nation says he’s found a new ally and he immediately goes for the guillotine.

You know, like rock legend Sluice Ickinson said. He’s gotta have more cow bone, babe!

I will not let this go until it is acknowledged. I will not repeat Halloween 2004.

Edit- Anyaka as always you are my hero.

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