You’re in the WRONG thread for cataclysm and pandaria bullcrap.
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W changes. Hopefully my raid can actually do the raid with less than 30 ppl.
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Nah, trash is fine. You can cheese trash for the first boss. Clearing mobs to Beatrix takes about 20 minutes. Trash to the dragon is about 20 minutes. Clearing trash to Beastmaster is 5 minutes from there. I guess if you collectively added it all together you have about an hour of clearing trash but you do get about 25 orbs per run which is nice.
The reason the instance takes so long is boss kill times and progging. We are “actually” progging new content in WoW classic. Everything else was already figured out minus the changes to HM4 Saph and KT.
I wouldn’t need to post here if we got answers on the cataclysm threads
Go away, nobody cares. You are off topic, annoying and rude.
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Great changes. Addresses the main complaints that boss hp and enrage timers were not appropriate for a 20 man group. Doesn’t nerf any mechs.
The hp and enrage tunings should be enough to make a difference for most groups without completing gutting the raid.
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So its been a year?
See, there you go Aggrend, you’re capable of using the official forums instead of posting game info / updates on youtube comments.
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This is a horrible stop nerfing content so early!!! Some of us enjoy hard content.
Go raid mythic on retail then
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Is that why you’re doing SE with 40 players? Because you enjoy hard content?
lmfao
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turn on the buff having to pug 10 ppl is lame af for our 20man esp with how garbo the loot distribution is this raid
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Exactly they cant be intellectually honest. The fact is if you scrolled warcraft logs you cant find a single boss kill with a strict 20 people in the raid. Some of them show as 20 man difficulty but they pull with more than 20 sometimes 30+ and they are constantly swapping people for each boss fight.
People will still whine. If you couldn’t best Mason before he was nerfed you can’t beat Council after it was nerfed.
Season of Discovery is not for you, friend. I would recommend trying out Cataclysm (soon Mists) or Retail. Stop trying to make Classic into something it isn’t.
Yeah, we spent a whole phase getting all this “seal” gear only for them to just abandon it in the next phase while still having the gear say it is seal gear. Raid should have been tuned to a 20 man not a 40-man raid group. They should have just continued on with a 1-4H version of this raid so we can get gear and not stuck with less than half the drops for twice the amount of people needed to bring to it.
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Right, they will, but a lot of 20/25 man runs are getting stopped at solis’ enrage timer and going 2/8. That creates the problem of not getting the gear/DPS you need to progress. It also leads to guilds zerging with 30-40, which no one really wants to do.
I think they got it right. Get normal guild runs going 5/8 and into the council fight. From there let the dps increases from gear make the later bosses easier over time.
It’s much better pacing than wrecking normal runs on the 2nd (and now 3rd) boss.
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That boss doesn’t even have an enrage unless you play the fight wrong.
If you fail that fight you’re just going to get stuck on Mason anyways.
Thank you for posting on these forums…
…pls sneak horde paladins into the next patch.
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Then do it with less people, and get more loot.
But I have a feeling you can’t even do it with 40.