Okay. Bye. Nothing of value lost.
They should obviously add Draenei Druids before they ever add Braenei Warlocks(if ever). Draenei Druids would require little set up. It could be something as simple as: The Night Elves taught them!
I know I talk about a lot of class combos… but honestly, the undead are just humans that died and got brought back to life. If they’re still the same person in theory… the problem being undead can’t even use the light if I remember correctly.
I still want nelf paladins.
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They can and it burns them/ heals there body. Many of them get disgusted because they start to feel again. And feeling stuff like maggots in your throat is disgusting.
Blizz just needs to write in a magical fix for them. Like they gave demon hunters arcane tattoos to help control a demon.
They may just have to discover something magical rune wise to make undead paladins stable. Like maybe a mix of light shadow runes. Or whatever runes nullify the harmful effects. Or the calia route where undead can transform to be like her but still use old cosmetics.
Priests channel their powers like the other casters, they do not have the powers innately like paladins
Because use their powers differently then priests.
And ruin both Paladin lore and lock us out of a possible class?
Precious hates it!
There are plenty of things in this life that maybe should not be. But they are.
This thread is unrealistic.
Undead Paladins!
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Demon hunters should stay exclusive to blood elf and night elf.
Human and orc druids should not happen
I’m sorry but I don’t think holding up the proliferation of a class on the hopes that a clone of that class using a different type of magic might show up… someday. In 18+ years we’ve gotten what? THREE classes added to the game? Soon to be FOUR with Evokers?
All this hand-wringing is a moot point anyway. If we are to believe the dev words that the goal going forward is “for race to no longer be a limiting factor to class”, then it is inevitable that Void Elves will have access to the Paladin class at some point in the future. Even then, that’s a minimum of 3 years away, possibly longer.
At best, we should be encouraging the devs to make efforts to have it make sense for them in some way. If that means redefining Paladins as a class that doesn’t necessarily have to source its power from the Light, or if it means redefining problematic races such as Void Elves as a more diverse group than just those individuals transformed by Durzaan’s trap, then so be it. That’s certainly better than just opening up access to the class with nothing explaining it.
I’m personally of the opinion that, if Paladins are indeed going to happen for Void Elves, then the devs should have Void Elves seek to emulate Paladins but using the Void instead of the Light, and that other Paladin orders are not inclined to accept them as true Paladins, but will grudgingly work with them if necessary. Mechanically the Paladin class on Void Elves would be no different than any other race, but visually it’s abilities would use the blue-black void color that NPC void spells use. At least that’s what I would like to see if Paladins are inevitable for Void Elves.
But to use the reasoning that “Blizz could make a new class that’s void themed someday!” as some sort of excuse to hold back one class, from one race, when the design goal has been stated as “race to no longer be a limiting factor to class”, is just silly.
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Should also add:
This ceremony is exclusive to the Order of the Silver Hand, which not all Paladins are a part of. There is no evidence to support that other Paladin individuals/races/organizations undergo the same process nor is it explicitly mentioned that it’s needed to become a Paladin.
This is just a fact. Silver Hand was originally just Humans and Dwarves. Draenei became Paladins through the Naaru teaching them about the Light. High Elves had Paladins through normal worship of the Light, but briefly lost in after most of them renamed to Blood Elves and had to drain it from Naaru. With the Sunwell restored, the Blood Knights returned to embracing the Light like the originally did. Sunwalkers get the Light from basic worship of An’she, which is just a different form of the Draenei worshipping it through the Naaru and Humans/Dwarves through the Light itself.
There is lore to support that Void Elves can get Paladins in a completely different way.
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Except void paladins is not a thing? Void knights in most typical fantasy games (or datk knight) had always been it’s own class separate from paladins.
I am expecting blizzards laziness to use a class skin to get out of making a void knight class proper.
And that is gameplay thinking, let alone paladin lore do not support void baised paladins. But I doubt that would phase one that only cares about what he wants for his high elf fantasy now would it?
Funny how we trust blizzard words despite how many promises they broke?
Actions speaks louder then words, espaicially now, people needs to speak up against this now.
The void has it’s own thing… it doesn’t nor should it want to emulate paladins.
This is something I see a lot, but it isn’t something that is particularly stressed. It is also counter to things we see in game like shadow form, void form, apotheosis, and spirit of redemption. It is not a huge leap for Blizzard to shift this barely mentioned marginally cannon lore since paladins really started off as literally priests in plate lorewise anyway.
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And what stops Blizzard from making it “a thing”? They create the story/lore. They can make up any BS they want.
And that is gameplay thinking, let alone paladin lore do not support void baised paladins. But I doubt that would phase one that only cares about what he wants for his high elf fantasy now would it?
I personally don’t care about having a Void Elf Paladin myself. But I recognize that the Paladin class is coming to Void Elves… someday. And because I accept that fact, instead of making futile arguments to try and get Blizz to change their minds, I am trying to encourage them to NOT go the lazy route and just enable Paladins on Void Elves without any explanation and have them appear to be Light wielding Paladins at that.
Funny how we trust blizzard words despite how many promises they broke?
Actions speaks louder then words, espaicially now, people needs to speak up against this now.
If we can believe anything, it’s the words of Garrosh: “Times Change”. Speaking against this now is likely not going to change anything since the wheels are already in motion.
Rogue, Mage, and Priest are in the pipeline for all coming in 10.0, with Monk probably next since it’s only Worgen, Lightforged and Goblins that don’t have access to it yet and they already have all the monk animations. The more asset and/or lore intensive classes are the ones that will take the longest, but they ARE coming to every race.
No race is going to be left out of the proliferation. Accept that. And once you do, start trying to come up with suggestions to make it work. The wall of “No” failed to stop Void Elves from getting High Elf customization, and it will fail again to stop Void Elves from getting Paladins, Demon Hunters, Druids, and Shaman no matter how nonsensical those classes might seem on Void Elves.
The only thing worth doing now is suggesting ways to make those classes work and fit into the lore as best as they can. Throwing a temper tantrum and screaming “NO NO NO!” is a waste of time.
The void has it’s own thing… it doesn’t nor should it want to emulate paladins.
But the people using the void might want to, especially given that the abilities Paladins use in combat can be quite effective. If the void can be harnessed to emulate those abilities… then why wouldn’t Void Elves try?
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lolololol and you expect Steve Danuser and Christie Golden are not going to overrule your lore strictness?
Void paladin will be a thing and for sure it’ll allow EE to be toggled off.
change dot org is probably your first path.
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Lightforged Draenei I understand. But I feel like a normal Draenei learning warlock spells/magic could be an interesting thing if Blizz went the extra step and added in a few layers as of why/how they came about.
I don’t think them being a worgen carries any restrictions, so them being Paladins would be fine.
These two would also be fine, however, I would want them both to be Void/Shadow Paladins. Basically they deal shadow damage and are all purple as oppose to being golden light and such. Might have to also change the name of some abilities.
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If they were to change skill names, I’d expect them to change the holy based skill names should glyphs turn off void animations/EE toggles.
He is probably only going to get 10 people to support…
The thing is, this goes well beyond Void Elf Paladins. For as many players out there who oppose a specific race/class combo, there’s as many players or more who want that race/class combo.
I’m not going to tell people who want to play a Forsaken Druid that “that particular race/class combo doesn’t make sense so you can’t have that”, when the stated design goal is “race no longer being a limiting factor to class”. The same goes for Forsaken Paladins, Pandaren Demon Hunters, and Lightforged Warlocks.
However little sense some race/class combos might make, if the goal is to make race no longer a limiting factor to class choice, then it has to go all the way. I’m just hoping that the devs put in the effort to have the controversial combos make some amount of sense.
If Blizz wants to tell me that Forsaken and Void Elves use the Void to mimic Paladin & Demon Hunter abilities, and that’s why they have those classes, I can accept that. If Blizz wants to say that after so many millennia, the Old Gods’ curse of flesh is a part of nature and thus the Void has a place in the natural cycle, so Void Elves can be Druids, I can accept that. If Blizz wants to say that Forsaken can be Druids by following the death aspect of nature magic like Kul Tirans do, I can accept that. But I’d really like those things to be established in the game.
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None.
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I’m sure they will throw out all the lore like they seem to have been in the process of doing and we’ll get light forged warlocks lol
It’s beyond time we get class skins