As fun as TBC was, it still represents big mistakes that moved the game away from Vanilla. Badge gear is one instance that is truly “you think you do, but you don’t.” Badge gear was bad design because people just ran the Mechanar over and over again because it was the most efficient source of badges. That’s just bad design. Flying is another that’s bad design because collision with other players is how the magic happens and in TBC you could just bypass content entirely. Sure, it was a nice quality of life improvement, but quality of life improvements have ruined retail. It’s supposed to be inconvenient, because it’s during inconveniences that the magic social interplay happens. TBC should stay gone, but I have no faith in Blizz to not cash in on that easy money.
Why not have original designers lead it. Maintain the original design philosophy.
Most of the original devs are long gone. Even then, those people are 15-18 years older now than they were when they were designing that stuff.
For all you know, those folks would reply to a demand like that with “No, I really don’t want to make games that way anymore.”
I don’t known if the first wave of badge gear was bad but I agree that by sunwell it got out of control.
Pretty sure Kevin Jordan would come back to do it under specific circumstances. He said he would be open to it.
First, LFG was done manually in vanilla. One member would go to Org to find a tank/healer and the rest of the team headed to the instance and waited to summon them. Adding a more optimized LFG (local server only) is only going to make that process more efficient. As long as it’s local server only I’m not sure how that destroys community.
Second, 6-12 months after the final phase completes people are going to start getting bored. If you don’t add BC/WotLK or something… people will move to retail or other games. The population will fall. The highest level 40-man content will get harder and harder to complete (because you can’t find enough players). WoW could start merging servers to stave off the inevitable, but eventually the servers would essentially be done (though this could take many years).
Some people will be ok with that. Like a bouquet of flowers, some things of beauty are temporary. Other players are not going to be ok with it.
Either way you go, this “classic” journey is going to have a limited lifespan so enjoy it while you can.
The ONLY option that Bliz should allow would be a relaunch of individual phases. So after this we all CHOOSE to copy characters over to the new outlands server and play there. The Classic world should not be involved in expansion endeavors except perhaps a giant portal in the Blasted lands that you walk into in order to unlock a character for an expansion.
I’d be interested to play each up to Wotlk and Bliz should do some work on character migrations into these possible future servers.
I think BC was better than Vanilla, and TLK was good up to and including Ulduaar.
Then, Activision started supervising content. 
I doubt Bliz is going to devote resources adding new content to both retail and classic. It’s already difficult convincing them to add BC and Wrath servers.
Flying mounts didn’t kill the game. you must be absolutely insane or mental to believe this. Every player if not most praise BC and Wotlk and they both had FLYING.
Blaming LFG and Flying for the fall of wow is utter stupidity at it’s finest.
You obviously can’t tell the Difference between BFA and BC Wrath Era you clown.
Cheers tho.
Hmmm. Idk, I kinda like the idea of them tuning karazhan into a 40 man classic raid.
They already will know. Based off. Your logged in, what game your on. Trust this they have the reporting tools to know how many flowers you pick on Sunday mornings between 10-11 am, since you’ve owned this game.
Maybe you will, maybe you won’t, I wasn’t in server first guilds in Vanilla and we still never brought a ret pali, even though the pali officer wanted to raid as ret. Once you have content on farm and you’re doing stuff like alt runs I’m sure people might relax a little on the no ret pali thing, but I don’t think it will be there for progression and I don’t think you’ll see groups bringing multiple ret palis.
As for prot palis, that’s really just a big no. Itemization wasn’t good and the lack of a taunt pretty much seals the deal. The only encounter I ever got to tank in Vanilla was Major Domo, which I had to fight for, and it was only because we were already using all of the warriors and our feral druid for his adds.
What’s the point of this comment?
The only path that I might find interesting is make a classic server and Call it WOW II rebooted.
Then move forward from classic with WOW II as a spin off retail game or even shut down WOW I and leave WOW II as the retail option forward.
Leave the classic server for those who want that, and just reboot WOW II forward, avoiding the bad mistakes like trying to remove flying, pruning, scaling and ilvl scaling and so many mistakes.
Doubt that they will do that and keep trying to move WOW forward retail, but with classic as my option I won’t buy a new retail xpac until I know flying soon as I hit max level and unpruning and scaling / ilvl scaling are dead in a fire fore ever.
Actually you will keep buying it, if you want to continue playing classic. That’s the model right now, buy retail play classic. I highly doubt they will not keep that up. Only hope will be they split classic off from retail and have you buy “content” patches for classic after a few years. But I don’t see that happening for 4 years or so down the line if ever.
I have no interest in TBC/Wrath, but I’d support stand-alone servers. In short, Classic WoW should not be progressive.
WoW has never really had an “obvious end game” where you win and are done.
Blizzard announced TBC just 8 months after Vanilla launched.
That was less than halfway through Vanilla’s cycle. The only raids available were MC, BWL and Ony. ZG hadn’t been released and AQ20/40 and Naxx hadn’t even been announced.
It was quite clear even then that WoW’s “endgame” was meant to be a never-ending treadmill of tier patches punctuated by the release of the expansion.
So yes, you can have Classic with an “obvious end game” where you complete it and win the game and are done. But just keep in mind that it’s artificial… if you think the game has an end you’re not actually experiencing the game as players during Vanilla experienced it. You’re not getting “the Vanilla Experience”.
I don’t really want TBC at all. I want to stay at level 60 and have new content developed and polled by the community to be level 60 content. As far as TBC, flying allows wholesale bypassing of others. Additionally, it empties out a lot of old world cities as everyone hangs around Shattrath. Forget that.
Yeah but doesn’t that mean it’s eventually just going to die? If you don’t add anything to classic, what happens after everyone has cleared Naxx?