Classic Era PVP PSA

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Warsong Gulch and Arathi Basin.

These BG’s exist for fun, these BG’s are not optimal for “Ranking” Characters in Era because players who enjoy PVP will be here are are not likely to allow you to AFK to the next one. If you’re interested in Ranking characters then organize games for AV and start to Q them instead of trying to rank in WSG or AB. If you are AFK in AB or WSG we will report you as such and blizzard does ban for this. Be warned, do not AFK in our BG’s.

Use your full base class kit, it is there for a reason and if you don’t use it you’re trolling your team.

Warriors

Hamstring, hamstring, hamstring hamstring and Mortal Strike you have it, this is your job. You are not a Mage, you are not a Warlock or a hunter and unless you’re are packing FAP you’re not really a DPS either unless you have a team of dedicated healers and FAP’s on tap. If you want to be a real DPS in BG’s either A bring 2+ healers with you to keep you alive and cleared of roots / snares OR re-roll a real DPS like a Warlock, Hunter or Mage.

Rogues

Sap, Kick, blind, gouges, cheap shot, Kidney Shot (yes also vs orcs you dummies) and run crippling or mind numbing or wound poison are why you’re here.. stop using deadly poison you’re breaking your own CC and the CC of others like hunters, mages and locks who are all better DPS than you. Yes you guys can burst really hard, but warriors typically out DPS you when you’re spec to PVP and they’re even not the real DPS of PVP, and unless you have FAP odds are you will be rooted / snared by good DPS, so play smart and use your class kit to disrupt the enemy and make them over think things, and cause them to fail, this is your job, you’re a threat, an interrupting force and a disruption that people hate to deal with. Embrace that.

Paladins

Blessing of Freedom, Blessing of Protection, Blessing of Sacrifice, CLEANSE, and Hammer of Justice (yes even VS orcs you dummies) This is your job, learn this no matter how you spec or gear THESE SKILLS ARE YOUR JOB, I generally only have 140 healing power equipped and can easily heal most DPS back to full with max rank Holy light or flash of light max rank with Blessing of light. MACRO your blessings so you can easily swap them on demand and learn to macro swap your weapons to maximize effectiveness depending on conditions.. JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PLAY RET DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE A WARRIOR AND ALSO DOES NOT MEAN YOU’RE EXCUSED FROM USING YOUR MANA POOL FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OTHERS, YOU ARE A UTILITY CLASS AND IF YOU WANT TO DO MORE ZUG DAMAGE RE-ROLL NOW TO WARRIOR YOU DUMMY.

Priest

Offensive Dispel, Power word Shield, Renew, Scream and Healing. I don’t care if you’re an SP, Disc or Holy build, these are your features. Use them, love them, and apply this to everyone. Yes we’re all aware you can do a lot of damage while you have mana but you’re not really a REAL DPS, if you want play a real DPS then re-roll Warlock, Mage or Hunter, if you want to be an effective priest then learn to be a utility class that you’re designed to be.

Shaman

Earth Bind totem, Grounding totem, Tremor Totem, Windfury totem, PURGE and earth shock to interrupt / frost shock to snare, with the ability to aid in damage via Nature school spells and melee, be smart don’t be a dingus, us your utility spells primarily and aid in damage like you’re suppose to because you’re not a Warlock or Mage or Hunter, so just understand like the Shadow priest and Ret paladin you can do some awesome damage until you’re OOM and that comes fast, so prioritize your team win conditions over your own selfish crap.

Druid

Mobility, HoT’s, Abolish Poison, Decurse, Bash, Pounce, Roots and Faerie fire. These are why you’re here regardless of your build. Stop breaking CC with moonfire spam, stop being an idiot who ignores the most important tools in your kit being your CC and mobility.. YES you can shift out of roots and snares on demand so don’t expect paladins and priest to dispel you like you’re a warrior unless you have the flag in WSG and are in bear form VS a ton of melee. Learn to CC, use your class kit tools no matter what build of druid you’re playing because ignoring these is as dumb as the Ret paladin who tries to play as if he’s a warrior or the SP that think’s he’s better than a warlock.

Hunters, Mages and Locks.

Learn to use your CC, you have tons of it and this is how you survive in combat, your team mates are here to assist you in damage and in utility but also learn to use your CC such as Fear, Scatter Trap, Concussion shot, Frost bolt rank 1, Sedcuce, Devour Magic, Decurse, ETC, ETC, ETC, ETC, ETC.. If you do not peel your friends thy cannot assist you in your job being the REAL DPS of BG’s.

Thank you and have a nice day.

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“These BGS are for fun”

But you have to play like this because

“This is your job”

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What is the point of having a “Class” if you don’t play the core abilities?

The point of the class is to use those abilities in combat for better or worse, but to use them not at all is no good.

The “Job” of a class is to play its role within the game, IE “its your job”

If a player wants to be a REAL DPS then they should play the corresponding class for that role IE Warlock, Mage or Hunter; the other classes are support characters in Vanilla WoW PVP.

The same is also assumed for PVE, where Warriors are the DPS class and the other characters are support roles, just like in a real life military there are infantry units and support units.

If you want to be support, play that well do a good job, but if you want to be infantry then do that and play it to the best of your ability, but don’t pretend for a moment that your warrior is as good as Warlock, Mage or Hunter in respect to damage in PVP, just as its ridiculous for Paladin to think he’s a warrior in PVP.

The point of “just for fun” is that there we’re there to win the game, not to rank not to farm honor but simply for the enjoyment of playing to win.

Rankers who seek gear aren’t usually there for wins, they seek honor and that is often antithetical to winning. Generally the rankers are there so they can pre-gear for raids, this is ridiculous considering that PVE gear is had 100X faster than PVP gear.

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Everyone knows wsg and ab aren’t as good for ranking, but it kinda seems like your shaming people for trying. You already got your ranks so you don’t care, I’m sure when you got ranks you did it by doing what your telling others not to do, and now that you got your gear and rank you just want only others who are already geared and ranked to queue so you can win more easily for essentially no reason. How about you just play your character and let others play theirs without doing this lame PSAs every couple weeks

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Not shaming them, just letting them be very aware that ranking in Era is not a fast process and Q’n for AB or WSG is simply for the combat experience and to try and win.

Ranking as a side effect is fine, but really should not be a focus in AB or WSG since the raw number of players there to win is in opposition to their ranking agenda.

Additionally Q’n up for AB or WSG in very poor quality gear with the focus of gearing up for raid is really dumb when getting gear in PVE is 100X faster and easier.

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There are a lot of ways a person can look at it (bg pvp).

In the truest sense there is probably a min/maxed out class comp for each faction in wsg and ab. It likely leaves most of the specs in the game off the team. If you do not want to play the optimized comp in the exact way you are “supposed” to, then you are an imperfection in the otherwise flawless machine.

If you are drawn to quirky specs or playstyles that is your right. I’m in that camp. Just know that you probably won’t have much fun trying to play that vs the juggernaut known as bis warrior+paladin death balls.

In my case, I almost always end up as the only class with heal spells in a bg if I queue as shadow, ele,enh, feral, or balance. Out of guilt I shame myself into trying to heal team fights while not optimized for that role. A little support, using the full toolkit, is a fun part of being a hybrid. It’s not so fun when you are stuck spamming heals as a feral, enh, or shadow vs the aforementioned death ball.

Nobody is obligated to play this game in service of other players. Just know that you will run into the optimized crowd at some point.

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What the h–

I MUST DEUS VULT EVERYTHING IN THE FACE

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Oh I fully understand that, I am by no means the guy that complains about healers existing or not, I know how hard it is to heal VS the kick botters; YOU know what I am talking about.

My complaint is somply base class mechanics and abilities regardless of spec chosen, regardless of gear selection, regardless of character stats… these are important skills that cannot be sidelined simply because “must zug harder”.

I criticize pladins, rogue, mage and warrior more brutally than any other classes because I play them most frequetly and know how effective they are, but also know what others can do also even if they are third tier alts now.

Any paladin can cleanse, any shaman can purge, and they should be doing so for the betterment of the group, same sorta thing goes for any class.

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If not having a designated role in PvP with a toolkit that supports it isn’t something of interest to you, and you just wanna be able to do all the things, then I suspect retail is more to your liking.

If you just want to press W and do “big numbrz”, then maybe Overwatch?

You don’t have to do everything he highlighted here, but if want to be a useful team member and, ultimately, have a better time, then they are generally helpful things to know.

Still, reported 'cause he called me a dummy!

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:thinking:

Classic Era PvP?

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This has perplexed me since 2019. Metasheep be metasheep.

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perplexed indeed.

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I have a blast in battlegrounds when they are played as intended. It’s so unfortunate that the modern player forgoes fun for completing some list from the internet.

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Its pitiful, I was just in an AB game that had a rogue in there who was crying because the game was taking too long and he wanted better honor per hour..

Its just a case of don’t Rank for gear, just chill and enjoy the BG’s and if you really gotta rank use AV now days.

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I’m just gonna leave this here…

:stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

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Those people need to go.

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Blessing of Sacrifice and Cleanse are my favorite buttons to press in BGs.

Will be even for fun once I hit 8/8 T3. :smiley:

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Stop giving Horde tips.

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Truly awesome, and this is the sort of thing that should have been a holy tree talent..

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information unclear, popping reck/deathwish/kiss/MRP in my leather set and will be good to PVP again in 30min when reck is off CD

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