It saddens me when people who do have poor grammar or spelling turn the conversation into this when those skills lacking are brought into question. This isn’t about someone being or feeling superior to you. This is about you making several spelling and grammar errors in your comments. I inform you of this, and you get defensive and start trying to attack me. Sad, man. It’s sad.
Grammar Not Sees are so 2004.
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I explained why I posted the Ion quote based on my opinion.
Hope you’re having a better day today and don’t feel the need to get all Fred Savage up in here.
Crappy fat fingered mobile posters unite!
It’s all good, man.
Was that a goodyear or not? I can’t remember.
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You can have a classic game design with new content and balance and have it not be retail. The OP didn’t even mention LFD. You literally take classic gameplay, fix up the most obvious and glaring class balance issues, and ship some new dungeons and raids for it. People will freaking love it.
If all you want is classic, in it’s original incarnation and unchanging, Classic Era realms are already there for you.
Adding new raids designed for the Classic WoW style of gameplay will not result in retail. Tweaking class balance to retain the spirit of Classic class design while not resulting in raids that are 90% warriors, mages, and rogues will not result in retail. Slapping a UI over top of a chat channel so that people don’t have to wade through lines and lines of political stupidity just to find a group will not result in retail.
Gameplay adhering to those classic design principles cannot be found in retail.
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If I could play this character, and by this character I mean a worgen mage in classic, it would definitely need the new models. Old one is poop. What really didn’t do it for me the first two times around was no hybrid love, ie the cat druid abusing charges from an item from gnomer and still being under par. I’d really like to see classes rebalanced to perhaps where they were in wrath.
And can we all agree there’s nothing wrong with graphical updates? When they released a bunch of 8 bit games for the 16 bit they always did a huge pass over the graphics, and it was frankly one of the things that made me buy stuff like that. Exact same gameplay I’ve come to enjoy, in a new better graphical pace.
And queues. Lots of queues. Ruin the booster market. Just ruin it. And make leveling easier but end game harder, I can’t tell you how often I would stall out the old leveling process and just reroll around 30. It was practically all I did for my first year playing.
I could see Classic+ being something popular, though tbh I wonder how much they are willing to work on something that’s a lot more likely to directly compete with retail, cause let’s face it, if you thought #nochanges Vanilla was the bees knees you were a special sort of player and not the norm. As they update classic games the two subtypes of player will only become more convergent.
If I haven’t played classic, it’s because things about it that I didn’t like the first time are still there. Worse yet, now with wrath they are removing a core function I happen to really enjoy, and I think that’s a very bad call. If they make it better all around, I’m way more likely to play it, but what then if there’s a mass exodus from retail?
For the record I think they should just go for it and take the consequences. New graphics, queues, transmog, barber, more than one button rotations, valid dps hybrids, I could go on. Yes this will make classic+ “more like retail” but that will only hurt the people who are going to avoid it anyway because it’s infidel to the originals.
If they really thought about it and did it right I wouldn’t even mind putting the typical “new island” style of expansion on hold so they can focus on some remaster format and not half way it.
It’s not an opinion. It’s a troll. That’s what you people do on this forum.
Oh Karen.
Bless your heart.
Thank you for supporting my point so succinctly/
The blueprint for Classic+ is in Classic Era. The unreleased Vanilla zones of Timbermaw Hold, Kharazan Crypts, and Emerald Dream are ripe for the picking.
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thank you guys for the actual replies to the topic
@Frozenwater
sorry but I really disagree with you on most of your points
These things are all very ‘retail’ features and aren’t very important to Classic players:
Updated character models, character customization, transmog, queue systems, graphical updates, fast levelling.
I do agree that changes to hybrid specs would be a very good change to the Vanilla version of the game, and that’s something that is fairly easy for Blizzard to do and would be very popular.
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Well I don’t agree with YOU. I hate that classic is splitting the base into two camps. That’s garbage to me, the guy who plays both, and likes both, and if both just converged it would to my mind be optimal.
Good thing I’m pretty sure we’re allowed to disagree. If the game has gone to heck it’s only been this recent push to put everyone into two warring categories. Faction war is dead on retail, so now they are pushing a new split base narrative with classic, and it sucks.
I’ll either get classic plus with the things I want or I won’t. If I do not, my chances of playing another 15 years diminish. You weirdos are getting your museum pieces or anyway were supposed to before they got this idea in their head that “classic players” hate any and all convenience.
Just, my head is thoroughly boggled, why would I even want to be part of your little “community” when you look down your nose at people like me for not “wanting aething mega difficult and tedious like it was back in the day!”
I just want to play fun games. Disagree all you like, it’ll either happen and I’ll stay subbed, or it won’t and I’ll move on. Neither of those things has a single thing to do with any “community” anywhere, it’s all on the devs to deliver something the middle ground can enjoy.
I mean I’m not a retail tryhard either. I think M+ and a boatload of other things about the current game suck donkey turds. One of those things is not the following though:
To my mind at least, if you’re against this stuff you’re just against the freedom to have fun your way. How can I care about a toon if it has 15 year old blurry graphics and zero customization of how it looks outside of face and hair, which is admittedly so minor especially faces you never see because blurry?
How can I cap a toon if I’m perpetually bored of grinding it roughly halfway through exactly like when said expansions were current?
Guess I don’t fit in anywhere, thanks for confirming that.
As long as they use wotlk 3.3.5 abilities and talent system I’m cool with whatever.
I really think that there’s a niche for the Classic franchise that will be lost if they go beyond WotLKC into Cataclysm.
40-man raids are fun in a very different way to challenging hard-mode style raids of Cataclysm and beyond. More epic somehow.
The retail story is so convoluted and messed-up as well, Blizzard could easily take Vanilla in a completely different story direction with a new launch of the game.
Or continue where they left off in Classic Era
what do you mean?
If bliz were to implement new phases of content for Classic, they could easily start at Phase 7 in Classic Era.
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yes I agree, that’s why I made the OP
I think that Blizz built the Karazhan dungeon before they released TBC and just co-opted it for the expansion. It’s such an interesting dungeon unlike most of the TBC instances which are just literal single tunnels…
Why did Blizzard stop making mazelike dungeons
Please shard your mouth. Why do fools not realize people who play Classic is here for Classic Forever and not the dresh Kan “PhReSh”?
If anything, restart if not needed. so scurry along OP.
If you cared to read the actual post, the point is to add new content to Classic WoW instead of rehashing Cata and later retail expansions
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Honestly I don’t really like your classic+ and that’s why they will probably never make it. Everyone has a different veiw on what classic+ should be. In the end they end up releasing cata without mogs, lfd and lfr, depressing but this is most likely what will happen.