That POM nerf is going to make a lot of people magically lose interest in Holy Priest next weak. It was a completely silly amount of auto spread healing. Also that Rdruid 4 piece nerf does nothing lmao most of your insurance procs don’t come from blooms in the first place. I don’t know why they do these fake nerfs
Ur own inability to succeed with a spec that has been s tier since the inception of the game doesn’t make melee players inherently bad
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Mage hate has been alive and well since vanilla wow. War. War never changes.
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Not enough. Frost mages need more nerfs.
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Why don’t we play the game when the changes come out and make that determination again afterwards? The AWC is still going on. Perfect place to see the changes in action. For all the classes that were changed.
Again, not enough and didn’t target a lot of things that need fixed with them.
mages deserve all the hate. Blizz’s baby since the beginning.
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Yeah, well thankfully Blizzard doesn’t cater to whiners that cry they don’t have 100% uptime on their targets all game. Of course, hardly a peep out of anyone about how broken Feral and Marksmanship have been this whole time.
Blizzard is being too softhanded with nerfs, rather them gut something then buff it after than take 4+ rounds of tuning to slightly bring something in line.
I agree 100%. Should be large damage nerfs as a way to bring it in line. This rip nerf is massive. Eventually feral will be back to an average spec (which is fine), except it will have a weaker ms now than rogue. Hurting its long term comp variety.
That’s a good way to leave a spec dead for an entire season rather than adjusting it accordingly when needed. Holy (Priest) needed massive buffs in PvE and PvP to bring it in line. I don’t think Blizzard likes heavy meta shake ups like that.
And Disc wasn’t GUTTED when they nerfed it. And it’s much more in balance now.
Mage has never had a bad season lol
Frost will still be a tier above everything else. Most of frost mages roots need to go.
They’re way to tanky.
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Yes, they have. You’re just biased. It’s okay though, you’re human we all do it. Mage also has 3 different DPS specs to choose from by the way. If one is bad, another will be good or even decent. Of course, they will be played as a class more often than something with 2 or 1 DPS specs.
Regarding the tanky comment. Alter Time is affected by dampening now, and they removed Temporal Shield. No Mages asked for Overpowered Barrier, but we have it for some reason. And here we are.
and melee could say the same about casters, but the true is that you can cast and keep hitting the melee even if he is on you, but melee can’t do anything if is root or slowed 10000 miles of distances of you as a caster.
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I honestly think that is a far better way to go. Gutting something is stupid, and you act like they’d be 100% successful with bringing it back in line perfectly. The realistic scenario is they gut something and then people who play that spec get upset and either take a break or reroll off, and then blizzard buffs the spec probably too much and it’s too good again.
Balance is difficult, and as long as they tune consistently, going slowly with it is far better than gutting something. If they gutted windwalker damage the first week it was disgusting, you probably would’ve hated that, most people would. Just need to be patient and let them get as close to balanced as possible, hasn’t even been out for a month yet. Tuning consistently is the key.
There are also things out of their control. People in here ask for frostbite to be removed, but it is in the spec tree which effects pve, and it was added there for pve. They can’t just outright remove it or make a talent in the spec tree not work in pvp. They could make it so frostbite doesn’t apply a root in pvp and then they could reduce the slow, but they can’t remove it.
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If Mages didn’t exist, Warrior would have near 90+% uptime on their targets. It’s always funny to me how much Warriors hate Mages the most out of any class—and how many play Gnome because of this.
Go to your class forums and ask for an Escape Artist effect for your class and stop harassing Mages.
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nah nerf mage down to reasonable levels
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Which is what they did. See above.
nah do it again
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Nope. We will see how the changes play out.
100%.
Gutting any spec is always wrong.
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