Class Tuning Incoming -- December 13

To be fair, we been seeing countless threads about healers not having nothing to do, and tanks rushing so fast because of how strong it is.

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stop trying to make sense, this is a wow forum just turn your brain off and be angry

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They quite literally know how classes will sit in keys/raid with full tier because they tested it for 2 months with full tier, raid trinkets, and ilvl scaling with ideal stats on crafted gear.

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Then they have a VERY good idea of where each class should be sitting at the start then

That is incorrect, blizzard has a horrible resume with balancing things correctly. They have a long history of leaving bad classes bad and leaving broken classes broken

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Terrible decision. If this was because everyone was complaining about how bad tanks are trying to speed through LFG dungeons without caring about the rest of their teammates - this is not the fix you think it is. Making tanking easier and more accessible to better for the community than the reverse. The LFG dungeon problem is because tanks think that’s the way everyone wants to do it and a direct result of timed mythic+'s. It really does seem the developers do not play this game with all the crazy, seemingly random nerfs and buffs you’ve made in the past two weeks. Making things more challenging doesn’t mean people are going to enjoy the game more or play it more. Please reconsider nerfing tanky tanks.

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Ok,so ursine adapt is no long to be usable ,since it at 10% now ,what are you going to replace it with? or is this just going to sit there ? You made this game and now you’re taking stuff away again.

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They’ve been working on decreasing the number of available tanks since Legion. Maybe this will fix the problem of too many people being able to put together pug groups because there were available tanks.

They will leave it on the talent tree and not even change the text, to mislead people into thinking it is still a good choice. It looks like if you want Berserk: Ravage you’ll have to spend a talent point take it anyway.

I just unlocked high mountain tauren and was about to level a tank. Thanks for giving me the heads up not to since you want us to be squishy punching bags.

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This is a terrible take, though. There is no hard content in the game right now. Mythic+ is much harder than it had been in Shadowlands and I guess the community as a whole is in for a rude awakening when they see how that’s tuned.

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You havent been around too long have you

They needed to just redistribute the damage in dungeons. Currently most tanks take 0 dmg or can outheal the dmg themselves. While the rest of the group is getting clapped by the mass amounts of unavoidable AoE dmg.

Just make the mobs hit the tank harder and tone down their AoE dmg a lot.

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I don’t understand this. Whether tanks are nerfed by 10% or not they’re still required for m+ and raids. Prog raids aren’t going to stop inviting tanks. You still get to play tank?

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Yeah totally you’re absolutely right. Just like when they NAILED tank tuning at the start of shadowlands and we ended up with 8 months of tanks kiting mobs instead of tanking them.

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They had a decent run in SL as far as I’m aware, sure people will never be happy with it but I remember every spec at around an 8% difference. Someone has to be on the bottom and someone has to be on top. Its not always perfect but thinking they don’t care/wing it is childish

Where Hpal buffs? give us speedy lights back.

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DPS balance in M+ was horrible in S3 and S4 2 dps doing 15%+ than others in high keys. BDK having 60% representation in 25+ keys (thousands and thousands of samples). Their balance is not good.

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The entire first 1/3 of the changes are Tank spec in PvE. PvP specific changes were in it’s own section.

As a Brewmaster main since BfA, we are the squishiest we’ve ever been. We are easily the most healer reliant tank in any expansion and this expansion is so far even more so. So why are they getting a nerf when they already require more healing than other tanks?

Just because some tanks (Prot Warrior comes to mind) are super tanky doesn’t mean you nerf every tank the same across the board. Come on now, you’re better than this lol.

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They did? Demo and BM and Surv were broken beyond broken all of season 4.