Class Tuning Incoming – October 8

[Nikanna-malganis]

this is exactly the case…they never fixed the issue with herald healing past 5 targets, so M+ gets hurt and lightsmith never got a chance to get played. Fix that issue and then you will probably need to buff hpal by 10%

[Shamonstar-undermine]

You realize the problem with shadow priest was their pathetic dot dmg? If you buffed shadow word pain by 100% it would only do 40k per tick….

[Crypticwolf-bleeding-hollow]

Look at Warcraft Logs Mythic Raid statistics. That is very clearly what they are balancing based off of. HPal getting an extra gut punch due to having devo aura and aura mastery.

[Nificent-mannoroth]

SP getting buffed,…ok.
Affliction buff’s when?

And why frost mage getting buffed…contractual obligation?

[Vlsal-tichondrius]

@Linxy

Mage

• Frigid Winds is now 50% effective in PvP combat.
• Arcane
  • Arcane Missiles damage increased by 35% in PvP combat (was 20%).
  • Arcane Orb damage increased by 40% in PvP combat (was 30%).
• Fire
  • Pyroblast damage increased by 20% in PvP combat.
  • Fireball damage increased by 150% in PvP combat (was 100%).
  • Scorch damage increased by 300% in PvP combat (was 200%).
  • Ignite damage increased by 15% in PvP combat.
  • World in Flames (PvP Talent) now increases Flamestrike damage by up to 50% (was 100%).
  • Glass Cannon (PvP Talent) now decreases health by 30% (was 15%) and increases the damage done by Scorch, Fireball, and Ignite by 20% (was 30%).

Nerf to Frigid Winds is strange. It is already a talent that is not taken much in PVP as is and will be taken even less. Maybe that is the intent, but you already tried to nerf it in PVP and then reverted the nerf as pretty much noone took it. Maybe Frigid Winds in general is long overdue to become 1 point investment (like its other classes analogues like Master Poisoner), especially if PVP nerf will be kept.

Some Arcane Mage buffs in PVP, nice. Since you are looking at them, please also look at PVP modifiers of Arcane Surge and especially Arcane Bombardment which might be no longer justified with all the changes and nerfs to Arcane Barrage.

Buffs to Fire in PVP are nice. However, change to Glass Cannon is the most “we would rather you not play this talent” change I’ve ever seen. At this point better just remove Glass Cannon and return Flamecannon (and if needed reduce / remove its range increase which was the reason for its removal).

[Duzurix-azgalor]

Shadow buff, ok again.
But how bad the class have to be to be getting buffs every other week and still performa like hot ?? This buff was already simmed by wcp and its roughly 3%ish increase, how is that solving anything? What was beta and alpha and ptr testing for?

And btw for shadow it realy inst about the numbers. /sigh

[Silveroow-stormrage]

Fury warrior does too much burst aoe, let’s nerf it down. Results Arms nerfed, fury buffed slightly go figure.

[Dracarian-medivh]

@Linxy

Protection

• All ability damage increased by 6%.
• Word of Glory healing increased by 20%.
• Light of the Titans now heals over 10 seconds (was 15 seconds).
• Faith in the Light duration increased to 6 seconds (was 5 seconds).
• Lightsmith: Sacred Weapon damage and healing increased by 30%.
• Lightsmith: Forge’s Reckoning damage increased by 30%.
• Lightsmith: Blessed Assurance increases the damage of your next Crusader Strike/Hammer of the Righteous/Blessed Hammer by 200% (was 100%).
• Lightsmith: Divine Guidance damage and healing increased by 50%.
• Lightsmith: Hammer and Anvil damage increased by 40%.
• Lightsmith: Sanctification grants 2% increased primary stat (was 1%).

This makes my heart happy.

[Aigar-proudmoore]

Zero changes to enhance or balance, my two mains. Yay…

[Xippo-frostmourne]

I’d love to know what data these nerfs are based on because holy paladin is certainly not over performing by 5% by any of the metrics I’ve seen.

It’s also very frustrating to see more of these heavy handed aura nerfs when there are absolutely aspects of the kit that could stand to be reined in relative to other parts of our healing profile. Like, Beacon of Virtue is right there being a 100% healing amp with a 60% availability. Why not do something about that instead of making every other button feel worse to press?

[Senrusho-malganis]

Pleeeaassseee revert the hunter changes.

[Creamtime-stormrage]

just remove hpal at this point, you guys obviously dont want it to be even remotely decent. we are middle of the pack in raids, and worst in m+

[Minikyu-proudmoore]

Translate:
We have enough data and feedback on class performance (but we don’t know the problems because we don’t play the game) to allow us to do @$#% …(whatever, just do something that shows we are at work).

[Vivatrex-faerlina]

Drop Gilded Crests to +8s and Mythic Track loot to +9s. Leave the +10s and up for the real challenge people can engage in once breaking that 620+ ilvl threshold. Currently you just get hardstuck around 614-615 ilvl without raiding and with the current Runed crest cap.

[Twinbird-tichondrius]

Need fix Templar’s Empyrean Hamme Bugs

plz fix it to stop targeting pets.

[Pymetria-mannoroth]

heck they not even fixed the static flight bug, but they was quick to fix bugs in the world first race.

[Madtweak-area-52]

Are you asking for enhance to get nerfs or something because they are in a very good spot right now in raids one of the best if you care about that, and in m+ 7 out of the top 40 keys right now had an enhance on it. Now if pvp is your thing I can fully understand your fustration with that dumpsterfire

[Ivyiina-daggerspine]

i looked at warcraft logs, and looked at the top scores by healers. HPal isn’t even close to the top scoring thats what i don’t get. how they could look at that info and think “hey, hpal deserves to heal even less and be even less relevant in content”

[Foolenyou-zuljin]

So basically this is proving that the devs don’t even have a clue and just do eeny meeny miny moe for who gets buffed / nerfed. Nerfing classes that are mid tier at best is a joke. While buffing hero talents because nobody is playing them is stupid , since they fail to realize nobody is playing them mainly because they are clunky or just feel bad to play overall.

[Yotyme-tichondrius]

These warrior changes actually suck.

getting forced into clunky specs and leaving behind the one thats actually designed well.