4th anniversary FOS, and multiple 10/x/08 (3.0.2 released on 10-14-08) proves I’ve been here since the 3.0 Prepatch when ret was running wild on entire raids in AV with beep beep im a jeep divine storm + wings macros and laughing about it.
I’ve been around since late vanilla. And No… you didn’t get baseline abilities from talents, thats the whole reason they are called baseline. You get the ability, baseline, as a part of your class, regardless of Spec, because certain active abilities were only available as deep, or even capstone talents, even back in vanilla.
What you do doesn’t really affect me. so Do what you want to.
Shamans didn’t even get windshock until wrath, used to share cd with the other shocks as well. DHs had imprison from the rip. It’d be like taking healing wave, or lightning bolt and sticking those in the class tree.
Well Havoc is above Shadow Priest and MM Hunter so there is that. Personally I will say it and I know it will probably bring hate but I would love to see DH get a 3rd spec and make it ranged dps.
I also think a rework is needed for both specs. I do hope they keep some things we have like Blade Dance and Fel Barrage. I would love for Fel Barrage to be baseline instead of a talent but this is just me I love this ability.
And I would actually like if we got our own enchant system like DK and their runes but again this is just me.
last time we were imba was in BFA, last time we were really good, was in Slands. At this point, you aren’t getting into keys because you aren’t a meta spec, and you really only need 1 havoc in Raid. So unless you can land a tanking spot… Nah brah.
Hell I am a havoc main and I rerolled fury because it has 2 working hero trees that both server a different purpose, it has rallying cry, a raid defense cd that actually works It has a buff that every single melee and hunters want.
If we didn’t already have like 5 paladin mains I would probably went that route. Paladin seems like the FOTM melee class right now. Rogue is good too. But I didnt have a nearly raid ready rogue at cap to switch to.
All I said was that Havoc was beating Shadow Priest and MM Hunter. The sarcasm was there but missed. I also stated that yes we could use a rework/buff, I also suggested we get a ranged dps spec.