Class Tuning Incoming – December 5

Yeah 20s are not high keys anymore, but even 20s not being hjgh i spent 1hour applying in 20 keys yesterday to be invited 1 time with 2650io, even if i already have the key and i apply in 17+ to try to farm some items the % of rejection is huge… some partys with infos “No monks dps”, and then if im extratcting 95% of my class another specs extractig 50% will do more dmg and will be more useful, will be alive more time just with passives and to me that not seens fair, i dont want supermegablaster ww top 1 dps, no no, i just want some FAIR real adjustments in passives, dmg, utilitys, defensives, scaling and etc. An then in much more high content the gap between the specs are hugeeee, for example just check in warcraftlogs how many 29+ and 30+ wws made in S2, if i not wrong the top 5 WWs WORLD made some 28+ almost all 29+ and 1 30+ and he spent muchhh time to get that, while a bunch of specs in top 50 made almost all 30+ and some 31+. And if you look in the middle term 24+ to 27+ the gap will be huge too and/or you check this season in subcreation, warcraftlogs look in the top keys-2 and see how many wws are there in all of the this context we can see how doomed wws are for so long.

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It mostly did, but after cov legendaries came out with necrolord, it remained meta for most of s3 m+ due to the seasonal affix reducing the cooldown of necrolord massively. Right after the affix was gone, frost dropped to the bottom of the list.

Elemental is in the same boat. Are aoe is awful and all are major spenders do no damage. top tier classes outperforming 80K dps minimum

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Buffing everything isn’t generally the best approach, however the bottom end this season seems to be half the classes and most of them are ranged. This might be a season where mass buffs to underperformers makes more sense then kneecapping every melee spec aside from frost dk ww monk and survival hunter over a few months. Because atm the specs most likely for nerfs are all three flavors of rogue, dh, and bm hunter, but chances are one or more of the legendary axe specs will start rising to similar levels of power as the patch progresses and do we nerf those next? All while the furthest under performers have fundamental issues of being ridiculously weak at a relevant damage type and also average at best for others

Well I guess it’s time to put elemental shaman on the shelf until next expansion if it’s even touched again.

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It’s unfortunately not a Dragonflight-specific approach they have taken to Windwalker. Aura buffs are pretty common over the years for WW (I remember in Ny’alotha when we were bottom of the pack and got the same treatment). There’s an article on the Peak of Serenity from 2021 called “Windwalker Scaling: The Sky That’s Always Falling?” that is an interesting read if you want to look into the history of the issues with WW scaling some more. It even links to some other articles posted by the author from 2017 regarding the same issue. Over half a decade of facing the same issue for a spec without any announced plan to actually address it isn’t great, but here we are.

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Where are Ret Pala single target buffs?

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I don’t know why you have to target BM hunters every single tier.

We were good at the start when everyone was still in early stages of gearing.

Your nerfs come in at the stage when logs were beginning to show BM at 4th and soon to be 5th place.

The specs at the top are Rogues, DH and Demology.

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Because the tier set is overtuned obviously.

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Rogues have 3 of the top 10 specs, including the top spec by a wide margin but no cries for Rogue nerfs.

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The BM nerf is basically Blizzard caving in to all the hatred against hunters.

When people get beat, they will find excuses and hunters are the easy ones to blame

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Why? Elemental shaman is doing fine? Lol. Per wowhead season 3 week 3, elemental is in the top 10… even nipping at the heels of enhancement.

But i guess this is how everyone reacts when their spec isn’t number one, huh?

Even though poor WW in literal last place, behind even augmentation lol, are just like, “We would settle for at least top 20” lol

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i suspect they don’t exist to account for the legendary.

Which is such a dorky approach lol. Even with bad luck protection, not everyone is gonna be able to obtain that legendary.

It’s not nerfed into oblivion, lol. Jesus why do people chicken little. You’re going to be fine. You’re probably still going to be top heals, quite honestly. With the huge margins i’ve seen, these nerfs aren’t enough to drag you to hell.

Also I hope you’re spelling Mana Tea wrong on purpose lol. It hurts your credibility to give tuning advice when you’re spelling your own spell wrong :wink:

Its like a 3% ST and 5% AOE nerf, its nothing.

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3% at 200k is 6k dps.

It puts us middle of pack

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someone has to be middle of pack? lol.

wow players are so weird. they all expect to be top.

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are they adding the rest of the notes after maintenance?

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Ele’s being carried by how incredibly good it’s 3 target sustained cleave is on 1 fight. Ele has a very specific problem, which is why I suspect bliz haven’t tried to do anything about it with aura buffs and that’s it’s aoe. Earthquake is so weak right now it’s effectively a filler spell unless you’re fighting more than 6 targets, and while the meatball cannon is fun there’s only so much it can make up for how poorly tuned Ele’s actual AoE spells are.

There’s definitely specs that need help on ST and while Ele isn’t the greatest it’s certainly not one of them, but there’s also a handful of specs this season with almost non functioning AoE kits and those things do need to be addressed somehow.

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BM hunter aoe was busted. Stop acting like it wasnt.

Cant wait to get my 0.4 mana reduction on one of my least used spells! That will solve all of resto sham’s mana issues!