Cross-posting from elsewhere for hopefully more visibility
My initial impressions on the prot warr bonus are kinda mixed
-I do like that there appears to be a choice of what to use it on, defensive vs offensive
-I don’t like that it’s 3 different abilities, with shield slam being the clear winner in most situations
Even though I like the offense vs defense choice, I personally would prefer that the ignore pain % bonus was nerfed but always activated when reaching 8 stacks and you got to choose between thunder clap and shield slam (though again this would mean hitting tclap in current tuning would be a mistake and feel bad, aside from some extremely niche situation of needing the bigger snare)
Will update after testing it some on the PTR
EDIT: After some testing, ignoring the bugs of the set stopping functionality, it definitely feels not great to be worrying about hitting Ignore Pain when nearing 8 stacks. It feels like more of a detriment than a bonus, to be honest
EDIT 2: What i think is happening with the IP munching buff:
-IP costs 40 Rage
-1 Outburst stack needs 30 Rage
-If you are on the 6th stack with less than 10 rage still required to reach the 7th stack and use IP it bumps you “over” the 8th stack (10 to reach 7th and 30 to finish the 8th)and instantly consumes the Outburst buff
-You do not get the “effectiveness increase” for the IP because you used it at 7th stack.
-That makes the current best strategy to NOT use ignore pain at 6+ stacks of outburst, which isn’t great
Also, it really feels bad that when you use Avatar, it instantly deletes all of your current Outburst stacks(364006) and just gives you the 2nd Outburst buff (364010); you are wasting all those built up stacks if you use Avatar with any, but if you sit on the CD then you are wasting the 4pc bonus, synergy with Anger Management, etc. Is it possible to have avatar not munch all of the stacking Outburst buffs when giving the bonus buff?
Thunder Clap feels completely awful to use with the buff, below is a hit on 5 targets:
Why press tclap when I could have pressed SS for ~15k hit and enough extra Rage to use 3 Revenges?
I would vastly prefer if tclap was removed from the bonus, ignore pain was always granted at 8 stacks and it just buffed shield slam effectiveness. It removes any of the “traps” from the set bonus and doesn’t require monitoring your buffs like a hawk