Clan Battlehammer - Alliance All-Dwarf RPPVP Recruiting for Midnight

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General Pragus shuddered in disgust at his surroundings. Massive white walls adorned with red and gold reaching up to the foreboding sky that was filled with the absolute darkness of void held back only by a single, withering beam of light coming from the Sunwell.

“How did weh end up 'ere?” Pragus asked King Regent Katrëll as the two paced through Silvermoon with a small dwarven host. The question was rhetorical, but the King Regent responded anyway.

“Because if weh dunna do somethin’ teh help stop th’ void from encroachin’ ‘ere… it will soon spread teh all o’ Azeroth,” Katrëll replied flatly, aware that the question needn’t an answer but answered to help assure even himself that he had a valid reason to be walking around the Blood Elf city with his weapon sheathed. “Dunna worry… yeh find any o’ these knife-ear’d, magic-fiendin’ types outside o’ this city, then they’ll pay th’ price as always. An’ this provides us an excellent opportunity fer reconnaissance on our enemies while also preventin’ a world endin’ catastrophe from occcurin’.” He nodded sternly to reinforce his conviction as Blood Elf guards eyed him and the Dwarven host from seemingly all directions, some muttering insults under their breath.

“I wonder if this is wha’ it felt like fer them teh beh walkin’ round Khaz Algar… o’ course knowin tha’ land belonged strictly teh dwarves an’ their kin. I still cannae believe some o’ th’ Earthen chose teh assist th’ Horde,” said Pragus with a meaningfully worn grimace for his possible kin lost to the mindset of the enemy through treachery and misinformation. It always pained him to have to smite an Earthen that made the mistake of aligning with the Horde.

Katrëll responded with a knowing nod of his head but no words. His eyes darted back and forth in active awareness as the small host of Hammers made its way through the city. The Blood Elves, while temporarily accepting of any assistance due to the grave circumstances, would normally never be so accommodating. The Hammers had already encountered heavy resistance from Sunfury Battalion while patrolling the surrounding areas. There was also the problem of an orc invasion near Ironforge that Clan Battlehammer was dealing with day by day. The Ironwolf Clan had been pushed out of Hinterlands, but in a gesture of absolute disrespect, moved their warmongering CLOSER to Ironforge, setting up positions in the Twilight Highlands and invading Wetland territory. Scouts also reported a steady presence of Division VII in Slayer’s Rise, where allegiances were fickle and fates could be decided in the few seconds of a weapon’s swing. There had even been sightings of Ironsworn Regiment, one of Clan Battlehammer’s longstanding enemies that had been rumored to be possibly returning to the Alliance vs. Horde perennial battle.

“Let them take their positions an’ weh shall take ours,” said Katrëll with the stoic presence required of leaders in situations such as these. “In th’ end… Clan Battlehammer will succeed.”

“LONG LIVE CLAN BATTLEHAMMER!” bellowed the dwarves in the Silvermoon host, setting the nearby guards on high alert and unnerving the citizens of the Blood Elf city.

Clan Battlehammer of Emerald Dream (17 years in May and still going strong) is recruiting for Midnight, including from other realms now with the x-realm guild feature! We are an all-Dwarf (including Dark Iron and Earthen kin), Alliance-only RPPVP guild that prefers WARmode on.

What We Do

Gather once a week for our Call to Arms to head out into the world and slay Horde together! If you’re online, you’re expected to be in the raid group and Discord. Talking in Discord is not required but listening is. If you can’t make it due to IRL, that’s okay, but the more the merrier. Try your best to be present! While we are casual compared to many guilds, we still like to give our best effort and come away with wins!

Engage in light-RP by marching together, participating in short, pre/post in-character battle speeches (interaction encouraged but not required, you can just politely listen if speaking up isn’t your thing), and shouting our battle cry “Long Live Clan Battlehammer!” as we smash the Horde! We keep /s and /y in character but this is not required in other channels like guild chat. Deeper RP welcome as well but not required. We have a few loreheads with us that can help you with any RP questions.

Fight honorably by allowing the enemy to rez and reform at appropriate times to keep the battle going rather than camping folks into the ground, though especially honorless Horde may not receive such kindness.

Speak honorably by keeping politics, religion, etc. out of public channels. We’re here to enjoy being Dwarves in Azeroth. Keep IRL in IRL. We also stay PG13, avoiding consistent cursing, until after hours (10 PM Central).

We are NOT a PVE guild, though several members do enjoy doing PVE content with each other. Do not expect a regular raid team, but if there is interest and we can pull people together we might give it a go.

Visit our Discord and reach out to an officer when you’re ready to join!

https://discord.gg/clan-battlehammer

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Are you on MG too?

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Wash yer back Dwarf

See you on the battlefield!

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We have members from Moonguard, which is possible now that you can guild invite cross-server. We are still primarily based on Emerald Dream but hop around server to server as needed when we’re looking fer a good battle.

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Several of us have mains on MG (myself included) and we visit the shard regularly for RP stuff and some PVP that pops up.

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Ah yes, I so enjoy when a massive dwarf raid purposefully strikes the Horde City chill rp focus points. So enjoyable, much what we all log in for.

/sarcasm

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What would you change exactly? I’m not trying to be rude or start anything negative, but you brought something up and I am curious. You don’t like alliance guilds attacking attackable horde bases in war mode, fine, but what specifically is the reason for this?

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Generally speaking on Wyrmrest accord, the main and now only Roleplay hub for us is the valley of honor in Orgrimmar. When big PVP raids happen within the city, they damage the frames and quality of interaction for everyone in the roleplay environment. SAme thing can be said for Horde raiding MG-Stormwind, it just shuts down Roleplay and makes things very difficult for people because of the performance issues that it causes for people’s machines.

Ontop of that, the fighting often comes into the Valley of Honor, where you have walk-up Roleplay happening ontop of multiple raids of 60+ people slapping each other with spell effects. It’s disruptive, annoying, and frustrating for Roleplayers to deal with, and it’s why there’s such a negative stigma against people who raid Roleplay realms social hubs, because you’re disrupting our form of gameplay, which is roleplay.

And no, PVP raids within the city are not in-character and do not represent actual roleplay interaction. I’ve seen people argue that before and its lunacy.

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I feel like it’s unfortunate that things worked out this way design-wise. On one hand, you have a group of folks who just want to roleplay and do non-pvp, non-combat things. They happen to want to do those things in a city where the developers have designed things to invite enemy faction players to invade (including achievements for killing the faction leader).

So, I can see somewhat how that might feel to be on the roleplay side of things (on either faction), and have an enemy raid of players roll through to PVP and kill city NPCs.

I also know what some of the perspectives on the other side of that dilemma look like. I’ve played on RPPVP servers since they existed in WoW, and it was always a community staple for a large portion of players to invade the lands of enemy factions. Some guilds took/take that to a mean place, where their goal is to ruin the fun of others..

…And then, there are other guilds that are just looking for some fun competition and laughs–both for them and the enemy guilds they get into fights with. The guild I am in specifically avoids griefing, camping or ruining the fun for RPers. In truth, if we show up in Orgrimmar, we aren’t there for the RPers, we are there for the RPPVPers who are also in Orgrimmar, who we have long-running friendly rivalries with (LONG-running, many years’ worth). When we are in Org, it is because it’s our turn to show up and say “hey wanna come out and play??”, and hopefully, since we are playing Visitor that night and invading, the folks we are there to fight can round up some extra PUGs to come give us the glorious death we are after.

I guess I don’t have a solution ( I won’t insult you by saying “why not just go RP in Silvermoon dude”)…I think I just wanted to convey that we–or at least CBH–isnt there to try and ruin your day, or grief RP that isn’t aligned with ours. Unfortunately, we are after different things that happen to exist in the same location though.

Apologies in advance but…one solution could be….just kill us? There’s a lot of RPers on Org and tbh, if you folks just developed a culture that prompted quickly forming a PUG and wiping us out, we would achieve our own RP goals (a glorious death) sooner. Promise I’m not trolling with that, I’m being genuine.

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We used to do this, but it’s been years since it’s been popular.

The Mead Hall used to RP walk into SMC and emote at Horde. We’d get about half way into the city and then get swarmed. It was great. Occasionally we went to other cities as well.

And when I was RPing with the Forsaken community, we defended UC at least once a month. And then did light RP about it.

We also had people who’d plan and run big RP-PvP events in a zone and we’d have battles.

Unfortunately, that’s all changed. I miss WPvP.

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Your guild ran a congo line of dwarves on barrels into the RP hub portion of the city screaming and yelling, disrupting roleplay. You say you don’t involve yourself in griefing, but that’s exactly what that feels like to the rest of us. WRA is not an RP-PVP server, most of the people involved in the roleplay community don’t want that sort of thing in our hub. The people I speak with simply want the PVPers who’ve come to our server over the last year to go back to Emerald Dream and leave us out of it, because Moon Guard and Wyrmrest Accord are specifically not PVP realms.

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I’ve brushed shoulders with both of those groups and enjoyed them. Good times, truly.

Wpvp is honestly still out there–a lot more lately than in recent years even–and you are more than welcome to come engage in it with us. We’d love to see some new or returning folks, either to team up with or fight against. We often have entire RP campaigns centered around specific zones where we coordinate with horde guilds to fight over RP’ly.

As I said, it was not / is not our intention to disrupt your version of RP. We weren’t there for you, we were there for other Horde players who also use Orgrimmar for RP that is different than yours. None of us made warmode a thing, or set the servers up the way they are. Like I said, we aren’t getting kicks from the fact that you are unhappy, that’s an unfortunate side effect of our playstyles not overlapping well. You can argue that what we are doing isn’t true RP, but that’s just like…your opinion man.

That’s where I think we are going to disagree the most. It’s a public hub. You deciding it’s only for your exclusive type of RP isn’t really fair or realistic. Yes, if someone is intentionally trying to bother you I am fully on board with reporting that person with you, but if you are standing in a busy street full of many different cars and yelling “I’m walkin’ here !” at all of them, that’s just silly.

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You’re able to engage in PVP content anywhere else in the game world, and Blizzard has specifically catered to your style of play by giving Warmode, Battelgrounds, Arenas, etc. On Wyrmrest Accord, the only practical place for Roleplayers to engage in our content, is Orgrimmar. We lost Silvermoon as a hub, and can no longer use it because of sharding and it being an active content area.

You wanted to know what things should be changed, and not disrupting the hub of Roleplay on our server is the prime issue I think people have a problem with with all of those RPVP groups. It’s less me standing in a busy street with cars, and you driving a minivan into a convention space.

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Bump to the short leg mafia. May Elune guide your path.

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You played Horde long enough to know all the GREAT campfire spots for world RP! You only see me in the city doing auctions for a reason. RP belongs out in the greater game world. Cities are a place for good introductions. I’ve had other players mention WRA limiting RP to only that one spot around Wyvern’s. Perhaps some of the RP can be focused in Rachet or Crossroads too similar to Duskwood and Gilneas on MG. That way a single 3 minute PvP event does not shut everything down in terms of RP???

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Apologies, I don’t check the forums nearly as often as I used to.

I get it has achievements and what not…but that is focused on the killable leaders correct? Or has it changed since then and you get achievements for killing all the npcs in a section of a city?

Valley of Honor is an odd place in my opinion, to target and hope for rp pvpers. Again, thats just my view point from the Horde end where I see maybe two people there with PVP on, and its usually because some nelf is there and they are dueling often by the barracks.

I do not care in fact if alliance attacks horde or horde attacks alliance for the city leader achievements, its part of the game. Its just odd that it sharded you guys into WRA, where after sharding became a thing the whole World RP Pvp scene died it felt like.

Heck, I played in the Theramore Events before the Manabomb arc, helped take the bridge during that event on my old main. It was fun. But RP-PVP has a place, and usually in hang outs where one isn’t likely to find a ton either fully leveled, fully geared, and with Warmode on is not the place to find your enjoyment. Its likely only to chaff and give off bad vibes in the end.

Again, sorry for not responding sooner.

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One could also argue that Valley of Honor is a strange place to RP if you are not familiar with the local RP scene.

I love RP and WPvP and at the present time to those that RP and WPvP, WrA Orgrimmar and Moonguard Stormwind are the defacto capitals for those that participate in this type of gameplay.

It’s unfortunate that the areas overlap but I am proponent of Blizzard designating servers pvp only and pve only. Sadly this will continue to happen but most of the RP-WPvPrs I know go out of their way to avoid intruding on active RP. So much so that “some” RPPvPrs will intentionally run in to the Valley of Honor or Lions Rest to escape or try to draw enemies in to the RP area.

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Clan Battlehammer purposely doesn’t cross from the tunnel into Valley of Honor unless there are enemies there attacking us or flagged guilds that we have historically been at war with. We stick mostly to the Drag and Valley of Strength, only poking our heads into the tunnel to show our presence and see who would engage. To say that we’re disrupting does not respect the fact that our RP lines, though vastly different, cross due to the game design.

The Valley of Honor under no circumstances belongs to a certain type of RP… though we do our best to respect what we see happening there. If you got a problem with how we do it (which is pretty darn respectfully all things considered… unless you lack the long term experience and wisdom o’ a dwarf teh see this… weh been doin’ this fer o’er a decade), flag up and fight or explore alternate venues if us just pokin’ our heads in to see who might want a fight is offensive to yeh. Otherwise… yer jus’ trollin.

Thanks for the bump.

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That is a point I hesitated to bring up earlier, as but was thinking. Like, if all of WrA RP is out in front of the wyvern tavern, can’t we just send them a jpg screenshot of it and suggest they all RP in a discord server? If all you need is the porch outside that tavern and you don’t want to take your RP to any of the thousands of other cool places …But nvm.

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It’s all good. I don’t come here often either (I’m only here tonight because I was on my way to the PVP forums lol)

I haven’t bothered to reread the old convo above, but if I remember right, I think one of my points was that our guild is there to fight other guilds/players who are also in Orgrimmar, and who want to fight us. They are there too. And they aren’t just in the faction leader’s hut. I think if I brought up the achievements thing, that was to illustrate that the devs also designed for org/SW to be attacked by players and it isn’t realistic or fair for a portion of the community to just decide that is off limits.

Ultimately, I am not out to ruin anyone’s night. I would be more eager to accommodate even some of the less reasonable preferences of my wow rp-only neighbors though, if they were more chill about communicating those preferences with us. Most of the time when they initiate contact with us (which we aren’t seeking, we are once again there for horde rp-pvpers), it is with some pretty hilarious levels of rudeness. Not a great way to sell someone on one’s POV imo.

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